Intellectual Dishonesty

SRY stands for 'sex-determining region Y', Spartacus.

SRY (sex determining region of Y) is an area on the Y chromosome which is responsible for the Male developmental pathway starting.

What's an SRY gene (if you don't mind explaining)?

"Anyone who has ever produced even a single ova is female, anyone who has ever produced even a single sperm is male. No one has ever produced both or first one then the other. Transwomen are male, they are not and can never be female. That's just a plain fact. Intellectual dishonestly ispretending you didn't already know thator pretending that these words never had a real definition and were just so vague that it's impossible to know if someone is or isn't a woman."

^This.

@SarahAR

It comes down to how you define a woman. On the contrary saying that trans women are not women on the grounds of chromosomes, but believing intersex women are women is intellectual dishonesty.

I'll bite.

Woman already has a definition. Just the one: an adult human female.

How do we know who's a female and who's a male?

Female conveniently also has just one definition: of or denoting the sex that can bear offspring or produce eggs, distinguished biologically by the production of gametes (ova)

Anyone who has ever produced even a single ova is female, anyone who has ever produced even a single sperm is male. No one has ever produced both or first one then the other. Transwomen are male, they are not and can never be female. That's just a plain fact. Intellectual dishonestly is pretending you didn't already know that or pretending that these words never had a real definition and were just so vague that it's impossible to know if someone is or isn't a woman.

But what about sterile people, chromosomes, intersex, blah blah blah
That doesn't contradict anything and again you know it doesn't, stop lying. Everyone who's ever produced ovum has something in common - they lack the SRY gene on the Y chromosome. This group of people who lack the SRY gene includes X, XX, and XXX genotypes, and every intersex condition that affects anyone with those genes. Those people all may have ovaries and produce ova, they never have testes or produce sperm. They are all female, and all women. It's bloody insulting for you to declare that intersex women aren't women to try to support your fabrications.

Everyone who's ever produced sperm has something in common - the all possess the SRY gene typically located on the Y chromosome. This group also includes XY, XXY, XXXY and XXmale genotypes (the last one being where the SRY gene has joined on to an X chromosome. They do have a Y chromosome it's just hidden in the X) and every intersex condition that affects them. They are all male, they are all men. Regardless of what they say, men don't redefine reality at their say so.

The intellectual dishonesty is claiming human beings can change sex when biologically speaking they can not.

SarahAr:

Saying TWAW is not a form of intellectual dishonesty. It comes down to how you define a woman.

Saying TWAW is either dishonest or a sign of acute lack of understanding. (What some call 'stupidity' -- I refrain.) Take your pick, those who think you believe TWAW; there is no other alternative.

If you want to try to understand, have a go at explaining what a woman is -- or try what several others have suggested, go via a definition of the word 'woman'. Then check you explanation or definition for circularity or other forms of senselessness. It will soon become apparent where your mistakes lie.

On the other hand, if you are not prepared to examine your thought in this way, to hold on to your apparent belief that TWAW becomes another form of dishonesty, allied this time to the lack of understanding I mentioned above.

Sorry, but that is how it is.

Can you also define "trans woman", SarahAr?

Definitions are important.

It comes down to how you define a woman.

Define 'woman' then, SarahAr

The intellectual dishonesty in this debate is mainly on the side of the GC feminists I am afraid.

Saying TWAW is not a form of intellectual dishonesty. It comes down to how you define a woman. On the contrary saying that trans women are not women on the grounds of chromosomes, but believing intersex women are women is intellectual dishonesty.

What also is intellectual dishonesty is arguing that GRA reform will lead to thousands of men entering women's spaces. There is no competent legally qualified honest person who would entertain this argument.

On the other hand arguing that the EA exceptions should be broadened is an intellectually honest argument. I disagree, but it is a perfectly valid argument to make.