Using women as human shields

Like the "Epistemic Violence" Laurier University LGBT soc said they experienced from Lindsay Shepherd's comments and the support she received on social media.

Absolutely this.

You know they mean "unsafe" in a way most people wouldn't use it though.

Oh is that what it means - like the Emperor doesn't feel safe with kids around making observations about his new clothes.

You know they mean "unsafe" in a way most people wouldn't use it though.

Thanks.

I found the thread on Twitter - mobile.twitter.com/jayhulmepoet/status/986564252331888641

It went out before the stairwell protests. Although the author of the thread is born female and possibly concerned for other people who are born female it looks as though women walking male born people home to ensure their safety included in the concern. Bit tricky to tell though..

Gotcha

twitter.com/JayHulmePoet/status/986564252331888641?s=20

With replies from some familiar TRAs and TRA allies.

While trying to find that Bristol tweet I just found this which I think is relevant:

twitter.com/siberianpine/status/994134379185213441?s=20

Wasn't there calls for 'c*s' allies to chaperone trembling 'tfolk' in Bristol? The day of the masked stairwell incident?

Yes there were.

Thanks, Knicknack.

Prawn please use anything at all that is useful.

I've peak transed my family, bit by bit. Was amazed to discover that DB1 - who has zero interest in any sort of politics but is mad on sport - not only knew that the Canadian women's cycling champion was male but knew their name. He is appalled about women's sports (he coaches) and both DBs agreed that anyone male bodied should use male facilities. They were very blunt about it, using the words creeps and perverts.

I'm talking about it more. So is eldest DS at school. People, even most young people, are quick to recognise the emperor's lack of clothes when someone mentions it.

I'm not strident at all. I don't say much. My goodness ordinary people are quick to peak trans.

If you spend a lot of time on twitter I think the world can seem more scary for the GC than it really is.

Knicknack, I've stolen this paragraph and plan to tweet it, if that's ok:

TRA ideology is based on the premise that women are lesser beings, whose feelings are invalid, whose safety is unimportant, whose views should be prescribed and punished for non compliance, and that they owe transwomen for being born with 'privilege'.

Your day shift colleague sounds marvellous, btw. We could all do with a few lessons from her on how to effectively talk about this topic in the real world!

If you put out a call for men to turn out and help, how many would actually show up? Giving provision of service and labour to causes that matter to them is a woman thing, (witness Labour having lost vast amounts of envelope stuffers and back room people when they started losing women voters) and being vulnerable to co-dependency and approval seeking from people with penises due to their own issues with self esteem and internalised sexism is also a women thing. Men wouldn't do it.

TRA ideology is based on the premise that women are lesser beings, whose feelings are invalid, whose safety is unimportant, whose views should be prescribed and punished for non compliance, and that they owe transwomen for being born with 'privilege'.

Also interesting to look at some of the sociological discussions around the dynamics of abusers, MRAs, incels etc who are low status in the male pecking order and have suffered for it due to toxic masculinity, yet believe that they have superiority and power over women, who are still lower in status. So exploiting power and superiority over women and commanding them feels like a right. See Lundy Bancroft for a lot of interesting discussion on entitlement beliefs found amongst men who seriously and serially abuse women. Many expect a woman to subject herself to and accept conditions they would consider totally unacceptable for themselves.

Also has anyone noticed the age gap? Feminist groups being led by males approx 10 years older or more?

The human shield is always best young, pretty and female. Great PR.

I think it is because older women often think 'the bastards were using me' but the young ones are still naive enough to believe they are so super pretty, speshal, cleva, great to be around that the blokes want them there - and other women aren't 'chosen' because they are 'ugly' and 'jealous'. Bunch of turkeys taking 'you'd look good with cranberry sauce' as a compliment.

I don't know if there was a concerted effort or not, but at the Oxford WP meeting it certainly seemed to me that many/most of the protesters were young "c*s" women. I admit I rushed past them as I was feeling fairly intimidated (although it was not like the Bristol meeting, thank goodness) so I might not be right, but I definitely got the impression that alot of them were young women. It surprised me a bit at the time, I hadn't heard of the human shield thing then.

Yes. And the argument that making toilets unisex is ok because someone is ‘less likely’ to be attacked is also using women as human shields.

For the picket line stuff, it’s visual. It’s a very visceral image if you have a bunch of men physically facing down a bunch of women. If you swap the men for the women, it changes the entire tone of it - now it’s ‘just a catfight.’

It’s an effective tactic.

They are:

Human shields
Confidence tricksters
A disguise
Handmaids
Masochists
Expendable resources
Tools
Etc

Who men could not erode women's rights to increase their own penis rights without.

Win win win for penis.
Lose lose lose for vag.

Anyone remember the woman dressed as catwoman to help F4J?

Is it simply because people are less likely to attack a woman and women are naturally better at deflecting and calming down situations.

Essentially women are being used because they are better at being calm and "nice" than transwomen are. The nature of their birth sex means they are more likely to take a violent approach towards people who don't agree with them. Natal women are less likely to do so and will calm them down.

it's like Natal women are there to set the example about how to behave...

You see, I'm very familiar with all this from the perspective of being persuaded into something oppressive by the presence of women who were happy to act as recruiters and poster girls for the oppressive group.

I know the use of pejoratives is limited in helpfulness, but these are exactly the kind of women who are termed 'handmaidens'. For left leaning people they are usually 'cool girls', too. And this is why they are called out - because they are being used, knowingly or not, as leverage to strip other women of their rights.