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Urgent! APPG on Hate Speech/Crime Submit up to 2500 word by Weds 15th August

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SexMatters · 23/07/2018 11:03

Hi everyone.

This one seems to be going under the wire. There is an APPG on Hate Speech/Crime but the news doesn't seem to have been spread to women and feminists, even though there is the possibility of misogyny being categorised as a hate crime www.theguardian.com/world/2018/jul/09/uk-police-chiefs-urged-to-adopt-harassment-of-women-as-hate

Here is the wording of this www.appghatecrime.org/inquiries/ link:
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Inquiries
The APPG on Hate Crime has launched an inquiry entitled, “How do we build community cohesion when hate crime is on the rise?”. We invite submissions of written evidence on this topic and we will be holding open sessions for further information in due course. The findings will be published in a public report at the end of the year, (2018).

What the APPG Inquiry aims to achieve

The APPG Inquiry aims to gather evidence of how hate speech and hate crime impact on communities, and to provide detailed recommendations on how community cohesion can be strengthened in the face of rising hate crime and hate speech.

The APPG explicitly focuses on all strands of hate crime and speech (race, sexual orientation, religious, disability, transgender [sex needs to be in here]*), and we are particularly keen on teasing out common themes, as well as potential divergences between the various hate crime strands.

To do this, the APPG invites submissions whilst considering the following questions:

Status Quo – What is the situation today?

What is the extent of hate crime and speech that is experienced by individuals or communities and what form does it take?
How does experiencing hate crime and hate speech impact on individuals, communities and their values?
How does online hate speech and hate crime impact on community cohesion? Is there a link?
How does hate crime and hate speech contribute to extremism, including intra-community sectarianism?
How does hate speech and bullying impact children and young people in schools and educational institutions?
How does hate speech impact on the emotional and mental-health of individuals who are targeted at a street and online level?
Recommendations – What can we do to build community cohesion?

Best practice: What schemes, initiatives and projects exist to build community cohesion in the face of rising hate crime and hate speech?
What can national and local government do to increase community cohesion in the face of rising hate crime and hate speech?
What role do police forces play in increasing community cohesion in the face of rising hate crime and hate speech? Are there practical examples of their work, say after major terrorist attacks when cohesion may be affected?
What role can community organisations, charities and others play to increase community cohesion in the face of rising hate crime and hate speech?
Are there projects that help individuals to support their emotional, mental health and practical needs when they are targeted online and offline?
How the APPG will gather evidence

The APPG is interested to hear from experts, practitioners, victims and their representative organisations, as well as academics and others with an interest in and knowledge of the topic.

Submissions should:

Be no more than 2,500 words in length.
Clearly state who they are from and whether they are sent in a personal capacity or sent on behalf of an organisation, and include a brief description of the submitting individual/organisation
Be emailed to [email protected]
The deadline for submissions is Wednesday, 25th July 2018.

Based on the received evidence, individuals and organisations will be invited to give further evidence during an open meeting of the APPG.

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It is vital that women and feminists submit evidence to this APPG. The slur 'T' is known to incite people to act hatefully towards feminists. When Maria MacLachlan was attacked by an individual who had just said prior they were going to "fuck up some Ts" the police officer felt that this should have been treated as a hate crime.

Imagine if someone had been filmed thumping someone of African heritage after saying they were going to 'fuck up some 'racist term of abuse', how about if someone was filmed thumping a gay man after tweeting they were going to 'fuck up some 'homophobic term of abuse'. It would be taken seriously, would never be dismissed as 'bravado. Why are women, feminist women in particular, not offered the same protection by hate crime law?

How many women feel unable to fully participate in our communities because we are afraid of misogynist assault?
How many women are afraid to attend political meetings because of anti-feminist harassment and assault?
How many women have anxiety, depression and other ill effects from misogyny and antifeminism?

How about the other end of Hate Crime/Speech? It is being used to specifically silence and harass women, feminist women in particular by proxy. Why was Posie Parker questioned for Hate Speech? How about Linda Bellos?

We need to submit evidence to this APPG pronto to make sure this does not happen - that Hate Crime law is not used maliciously to hurt women, particularly feminist women, or those assumed to be feminist.

Please could you join me on this thread to discuss what the key issues are so we can submit strong evidence, drawing on our personal experience to make sure we are not forgotten in the APPG and to make sure this is not going to be a way of making 'deadnaming' and 'misgendering' hate crimes where we can be lawfully punished, even imprisoned for stating facts or describing reality. This APPG is already known about widely in authoritarian, bullying ideological circles who seek to suppress free speech- so the submissions so far are likely to be very skewed in their favour.

Thanks.

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BingBongSong · 15/08/2018 22:54

Sent at 5 to 8 Smile. It was a bit rushed towards the end but they were locking up the office and I needed to leave. I also included the latest Rape Crisis stats, which make for depressing reading. In my haste I forgot to include our favourite children's convener.

AncientLights · 15/08/2018 21:41

I also just sent it. Hope the close is midnight tonight, not 5pm.

paintedwingsandgiantrings · 15/08/2018 19:38

Just finished, phew!!

Good luck BingBong!

BingBongSong · 15/08/2018 17:21

I'm still writing mine, so I hope it's not 5pm! Should be finished before 8pm tonight.

paintedwingsandgiantrings · 15/08/2018 16:05

Anyone know what the time deadline is for this?

Is it 5pm or midnight perhaps?

paintedwingsandgiantrings · 15/08/2018 02:27

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QuarksandLeptons · 14/08/2018 17:44

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SexMatters · 14/08/2018 15:34

Good news people. Just checked the APPG link and they have updated it to say:

"The APPG explicitly focuses on all strands of hate crime and hate speech (sex , race, sexual orientation, religion or belief, disability, gender identity), and we are particularly keen on teasing out common themes, as well as potential divergences between the various hate crime strands."

I have bolded the word sex because they are now explicitly stating that hate crimes based on sex are key to the consultation! (also, possibly bad news - they speak of nebulous gender 'identity' - whatever that means, rather than gender reassignment).

Please submit your experience of hate crimes/incidents where you have been targeted as a woman for being a woman and how this affects you.

Hate crime law is currently being weaponised to silence and harass women by proxy. Your voice is important!

Due in tomorrow!

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SexMatters · 14/08/2018 14:42

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stillathing · 14/08/2018 13:42

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SexMatters · 14/08/2018 10:50

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Cartertheunstoppablesexmachine · 14/08/2018 09:59

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UpstartCrow · 14/08/2018 08:54

Bump - the deadline is tomorrow.

MicroCarrots · 13/08/2018 19:42

That sounds really good BingBongSong!

BingBongSong · 13/08/2018 19:03

Thanks, Microcarrots. I'll have a think about it and use some recent examples that have been in the press. Might mention my conversations with our MP and his team which have been dismissive of my concerns re. the erosion of women's rights. Might also mention Maria Mac, the blockading of the stairwell in Bristol and the bomb threat.

MicroCarrots · 13/08/2018 18:59

Hi BingBongSong, Great that’s you’re up for writing. Unfortunately, I think they may discredit copy and paste documents.

I think they’re inclined to take more notice of 10 original lines of text than repeated content.

The best thing to do if you’re short of time is just take one of their questions and answer it, paraphrasing from either mine or someone else’s but getting something new in if possible.

You could just take one aspect that effects women that would benefit from a change in the law to recognise misogyny as a hate crime. It doesn’t necessarily need to have effected you personally. Could be FGM, could be the levels of death women face at the hands of partners / ex partners, could be levels of sexual violence against girls in school.

BingBongSong · 13/08/2018 16:16

Thanks Carrots and SexMatters.

Would it be ok to copy and paste most of the responses? Personally I have not been subjected to more than the "usual" amount of misogyny and I don't think I could write anything about my own experience which would be very impactful.

SexMatters · 13/08/2018 16:00

Thanks carrots!

Reminder - deadline Wednesday! Still time to submit!

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MicroCarrots · 13/08/2018 10:53

What role can community organisations, charities and others play to increase community cohesion in the face of rising hate crime and hate speech?

♣ Protecting women’s existing legal rights and allowing them to meet in safety without violence and intimidation from men who wish to silence women. Listening and believing women when crimes are reported. Allowing women to have a voice in legislation that is being drawn up and will impact them.

Are there projects that help individuals to support their emotional, mental health and practical needs when they are targeted online and offline?

♣ Women’s Aid, Women’s Trust, Refuge and many other domestic violence support groups specifically for women are excellent but underfunded by the state.
♣ Mumsnet offer a safe space for women to speak to each other and provide support and healing.

MicroCarrots · 13/08/2018 10:52

What role do police forces play in increasing community cohesion in the face of rising hate crime and hate speech? Are there practical examples of their work, say after major terrorist attacks when cohesion may be affected?

♣ While police are doing a brilliant job in tough circumstances, they need to be trained to understand that they have their own biases against women as they have already been shown to have against people of colour and minority religions in the UK. They need to be trained to approach reports of crimes fairly against women, e.g. rape should not be assumed to be the woman’s fault (e.g., what were you wearing, why were you out without a boyfriend etc.) Please see the recent UK gang rape case against a very young woman where the older men escaped any punishment. www.independent.co.uk/voices/northern-ireland-ulster-rugby-rape-trial-not-guilty-im-with-her-a8280066.html

MicroCarrots · 13/08/2018 10:51

What can national and local government do to increase community cohesion in the face of rising hate crime and hate speech?

♣ Nationwide misogyny hate crime reporting would send a clear message to society that to harass, intimidate and threaten women and girls is not acceptable, either morally or legally. It would provide a clear framework for prosecuting crime that has been committed against women on the basis of their sex. It would simplify the legal system and make the jobs of police officers and judges easier, thus saving money for the state as well as protecting women.
♣ Since Nottingham police included misogyny as a hate crime in April 2016, women have reported feeling safer and men have reported that they have challenged their own behaviour towards women.
♣ Educational programs that target sexist and misogynistic attitudes to women should be reinforced and expanded upon in schools and workplaces.
♣ Women need to have their single sex spaces protected. Women need protection from men because as a group they are generally physically smaller and weaker than men. The violence in society is overwhelmingly committed by men and overwhelmingly perpetrated against women. These spaces protect women from male violence in prisons, domestic violence shelters as well as being safe in public parks etc. by using female only toilets and changing rooms. Also, sex segregated activities such as swimming pools / gyms allow women of faith from Muslim and Jewish and other faiths to participate fully in public life.
♣ The definition of what a woman is needs to be protected. Men who identify as women should be given their own separate set of legal protections but women’s rights should remain for women, not for both men and women. The crime statistics for men who identify as women remain exactly the same as for men who identify as men. They remain a threat to women in the same way that men as a group are. journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0016885

MicroCarrots · 13/08/2018 10:45

Recommendations – What can we do to build community cohesion?

Best practice: What schemes, initiatives and projects exist to build community cohesion in the face of rising hate crime and hate speech?

♣ Current educational programs that target sexist stereotypes about what behaviour and personality women and girls should have are starting to break down the unconscious biases that currently work against women in our society and lead to misogyny and violence against women and girls.

MicroCarrots · 13/08/2018 10:43

How does hate speech impact on the emotional and mental-health of individuals who are targeted at a street and online level?

♣ Women are suffering from PTSD, chronic stress and anxiety as a result of misogyny inflicted upon them by men who do not consider that women deserve to live their lives in safety and with dignity.
♣ Many women simply leave social media as it becomes stressful and detrimental to their mental health. This is unfair as the digital domain is as much a part of everyday life as physical public spaces. Women deserve to be a part of the digital landscape and to have their say.
♣ In real life, out in public on the street, women are fearful for their safety on the basis of their sex as women are frequently assaulted and raped if they walk alone on the street.
♣ This creates a culture of fear and effectively blocks women from leading their lives freely without distress.If any other group, i.e. religious group or protected group experienced violence and death at the rate that women as a group do, there would be an outcry. It is shocking that the state is allowing this situation to continue for women.
♣ www.bustle.com/p/heres-how-sexism-can-affect-your-mental-health-according-to-science-62229

IncrediblySturdyPyjamas · 13/08/2018 10:43

Thanks Micro. Thanks everyone.

Sitting down to do this later today.

MicroCarrots · 13/08/2018 10:42

How does hate speech and bullying impact children and young people in schools and educational institutions?

♣ Figures published in September 2015 showed that 5,500 sexual offences were recorded in UK schools over a three year period, including 600 rapes. A poll of 16-18 year olds in 2010 found 29 per cent of girls experienced unwanted sexual touching at school and a further 71 per cent said they heard sexual name-calling towards girls at school daily, or a few times each week.
♣ Girls and women are being denied a safe and inclusive environment for their education apart from when they are in single sex institutions. Being fearful and being harassed and assaulted at schools prevents girls and young women from being able to concentrate, focus and achieve. This has repercussions for the rest of their lives; reducing their options for future employment as well as their mental well-being over the course of their lives.
♣ See article regarding sex attacks in playgrounds at schools in the UK www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/news/playground-sex-assaults-are-becoming-an-epidemic-wcxh63tll