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What does it feel like to be a woman?

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Secretsquirrelisfedup · 22/07/2018 22:43

I am not trying to be goady. I genuinely welcome all views.

I am a woman but I cannot tell you how it feels to be a woman because I am just me. I genuinely could not answer what being a woman feels like in general terms. I can only describe how both biological and socialogical aspects of being female from birth have influenced the way I feel, which differs for every woman I know.

I would not have been directly affected by these things had I not been born female so I have no idea what I would feel like if I wasn't. So what I want to know is what does it feel like to know you're a woman without the obvious signs?

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thebewilderness · 23/07/2018 03:20

We all make the lemonade as sweet as we possibly can but that does not change the fact that lemons are what we started with.

LinoleumBlownapart · 23/07/2018 03:07

The only way I can think about what it's like to be a woman is to compare it to what it's like not being a man. And weighing the two up and knowing what I know now. Being a woman is shit, that's not to say I don't enjoy life, motherhood, being married etc, I do, but I certainly feel like we get the short straw.

Secretsquirrelisfedup · 23/07/2018 02:51

Not entirely sure whats going on. No this hasn't been deleted already because I have not said anything offensive to anybody and nor would I. I do not want to make anybody feel bad. What I am asking for is answers to questions that I have not yet seen actual answers for. @itsbritneybiatch can you actually answer my question or would you rather throw random shite accusations at me and label me as lots of things that I am definitely not in order to deflect from it?

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Aintnothingbutaheartache · 23/07/2018 02:45

bills you sound a bit down on yourself

billsbillsbillsbills · 23/07/2018 02:37

Shot because you have to look a certain way. I'm flat chested with no curves and a bloated belly. Shit hair shit skin no ass no nails absolutely nothing good I can say about my self

TinyRick · 23/07/2018 02:27

Fucked if I know

UglyCathKidstonBag · 23/07/2018 02:16

What’s happening? Confused

Aintnothingbutaheartache · 23/07/2018 02:12

I wanna go round itsbritneybiatch ‘s gaff she sounds like a larf😉
In reply to op, surely nobody thinks about what it like to be a man or a woman on a day to day basis?
Don’t we think (indeed if we do at all) about what it’s like to be ME!?

itsbritneybiatch · 23/07/2018 02:08

But op

Get a grip babe

itsbritneybiatch · 23/07/2018 02:07

I'm a show xx

itsbritneybiatch · 23/07/2018 02:07

All pretence for everyone else. I have lost my lecky ciggie.

I am ex army. I am ex boss shot.

I'm drunk.
I'm sooooo happy.

My step kids are happy. And amazing.

Life is boss xxx

itsbritneybiatch · 23/07/2018 02:03

I've lost my lecky cig down the couch.

My 100% leather couch.

I'm half middle class Wink

itsbritneybiatch · 23/07/2018 01:59

Huns.

Babes

itsbritneybiatch · 23/07/2018 01:59

This is very very familiar x

itsbritneybiatch · 23/07/2018 01:58

Wasn't this just deleted?

VickyEadie · 23/07/2018 01:51

Another woman who has no idea either here.

Although - as others have indicated - I feel more and more threatened and at risk than I ever did when I was young.

Secretsquirrelisfedup · 23/07/2018 00:54

If I posted saying that I think that females are women and males are men, end of, no discussion I would be ripped to shreds. I'm not saying that. I'm genuinely asking for other peoples experiences that differ from mine. Where the fook are these people to educate me when I'm begging for their opinion. I don't want to rip anyone to shreds I just want to understand what the feck is going on at the moment and why?

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Floorplan · 23/07/2018 00:30

It's patently obvious that no transwoman has a clue what being a actual born woman actually feels like. Transexuals have a mental disorder that makes them want female genitals, but it doesn't all add up really does it.

Secretsquirrelisfedup · 23/07/2018 00:17

Well depressingly I agree with all of the above and have shared many depressing and opressing experiences due to being born female. It would still be really really helpful to hear from people who identify as women who don't share these experiences of being born female to enlighten me as to what this womanly essence is though, other than doing as your told (which it clearly isn't) and dealing with crap both of societies and biologies making and still finding the energy to fight to be respected as an equal human.

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thebewilderness · 23/07/2018 00:04

I should have added that I have always identified as a people but never been able to convince anyone to treat me like one except online.

BarrackerBarmer · 22/07/2018 23:51

My personal feelings (which RELATE to me bring a woman) are that I feel like a target. Like prey.

Like the other half of an equation that I don't want any part of. Which doesn't make sense. Doesn't balance.

Like this isn't a battle over words. It's a battle over me, and people like me, female.

Like what is being chased down isn't the right to be called a particular word. It's me. Because whatever I call myself becomes the target. Wherever I go is where they will demand entry. It's not just "I'll have whatever she's having', it's "whatever she says she is, I'm that too". The words and the spaces and the rights hold no value in their own right. Emptied of their association with me, with females, they are worthless. No transwoman would want the words, the rights and the spaces, if the billions of women were divorced from them. These rights hold no appeal or value at all, in and of themselves. What makes them desirable is the value and meaning they derive from being related to me and all females.

We are the target. If men cannot be us, they can at least prevent us from running away. Like a butterfly pinned to a board that you can claim you own.

I keep thinking of the fairytale of the Princess and the frog, where she is forced to have the frog eat from her plate and sleep in her bed. It's not enough to give him his own identical plate and identical bed. It wouldn't be enough to sacrifice her own plate and bed and walk away empty handed. There arent enough plates and beds in the world to satisfy him. That isn't what he wants. He wants her. To force her to submit. To have no right to exist independently from him.

I know that fairy tale is supposed to make us feel like the spoiled princess is being forced to honour a promise, learning to share, being cured of her aversion to another of God's creatures.

But it isn't that. It is an obscene kind of punishment and degradation, that strips her of privacy and dignity and autonomy. It's a demonstration to her that she is powerless and impotent and enslaved.

AfterSchoolWorry · 22/07/2018 23:50

I never think about it and when I try, I go blank. Because I don't know anything else.

Secretsquirrelisfedup · 22/07/2018 23:48

So for me the common experiences with other women so far are:

I was first treat like I was worth nothing as I wasn't attractive (apparently) then I was attractive but only worth something if I knew my place. I have been treat like a timewaster when I was in extreme pain because I am a woman, both in labour and with an extreme medical condition which was unrelated but due to being a woman seen to a lot less quickly because it was written off as normal woman troubles for 15 years before it was taken seriously. (I have given birth twice, with no pain relief, back to back labours and NOT by choice but because I was too quiet).

I am usually treat like a child when speaking about any subject I have experience in or have researched thoroughly regardless of the experience of the other party.

I also like rock climbing, kayaking, political debate, intellectual debate, kickboxing, beer drinking, rugby and football, wearing dresses, being a stay at home mum for the time being and not being talked to like a total tit.

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DramaAlpaca · 22/07/2018 23:34

I only know what it feels like to be me, a woman. I have no idea what it would feel like to be a man because I'm not one. My only experience is of being a woman. So I can't really answer the question.

UglyCathKidstonBag · 22/07/2018 23:30

It feels like you’re up for discussion or public scrutiny no matter what you do.

Her skirt is too short/her skirt is too long
She sleeps with too many men/she is frigid
She is works out of the home/she is a stay at home mum
She breastfeeds/she doesn’t breastfeed

It also feels like being hyper vigilant, like you’re always “on”.

But in many other ways I have no idea how, because I’m just me.

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