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The vast majority of male born transwomen still retain a penis

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IJustHadToNameChange · 22/07/2018 12:40

fairplayforwomen.com/penis/

Stats for arguing with waiverers.

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thebewilderness · 23/07/2018 19:25

I used to think it was low fruit and veg consumption when I was younger but now I think it is because most men eat too much too fast. Way too much way too fast. So their digestive system has reduced efficiency because they make it work too hard.

SophoclesTheFox · 23/07/2018 19:25

And that 1% is the few times when I've been asked by other women for tissue or tampons or whatever

Hahahaha! no. Only in your imagination. In my thirty-five plus years of being old enough to be asked for a tampon by a stranger, it's happened twice.

You may think you pass in the ladies loos, but what you don't realise, because you've clearly never let it bother you is that women see you, clock you're male and the stats will go something like this:

some of them will just vanish. You won't see them go. You won't know why - but it's your presence. Those are the traumatised women who simply cannot bear to share intimate spaces with males, or the religious women who are completely mortified by doing so. They'll never say anything to you. They're too afraid. They will be thinking about the changes they can make in their lives to avoid this situation happening again - their lives may get smaller.

Some women will feel uncomfortable but tell themselves to be kind, or to be cool, or that they are still safe, and that your struggles are greater than theirs. They're still uncomfortable. But they won't challenge you not because they're happy that you're there, but because they habitually won't challenge males transgressing boundaries, because experience has often taught them that this escalates the situation and female socialisation makes it difficult (I am in this category),

Some of them will be so uncomfortable that they'll challenge you.

Some of them won't care that you're there. It doesn't bother them.

Why do you assume that all women are in the fourth category? What do you think the percentages are? Has it ever occurred to you to find out?

If you want to identify as a woman, you could at least start by identifying with us.

GeorgeFayne · 23/07/2018 19:16

This thread is AWESOME and the perfect example of women multi-tasking. We can simultaneously debunk misogynist shit AND discuss actual shit in the same conversation.

I suspect my husband takes forever on the toilet because he brings his damn phone in there. Seriously, I would NOT want to culture his phone to see what grows!

Interesting tidbit of WOMEN'S BIOLOGY here to unite the subjects: progesterone can slow digestion. Some women notice constipation when levels are high, then looser stools when levels drop. Can definitely be an issue in pregnancy!

TellsEveryoneRealFacts · 23/07/2018 19:00

I've always assumed they just sit around and wait and take it as some 'me time'. Whereas women usually have a ton of other things to do and try and get the poo done asap.

I always thought it was to avoid doing the washing up.

Ereshkigal · 23/07/2018 18:45

I don't think you have a legitimate boundary

That pretty much sums up Trans Ideology in a handy bite sized sentence.

Oh yes!

Pepvixen · 23/07/2018 18:41

I've always assumed they just sit around and wait and take it as some 'me time'. Whereas women usually have a ton of other things to do and try and get the poo done asap.

Ereshkigal · 23/07/2018 18:37

I once found a ‘Barbara Cartland advises on Sex and the Teenager’ book in a chazza shop.

Jealous!

Ereshkigal · 23/07/2018 18:36

Perhaps we could introduce a badge scheme like the brownies:

I earn less than penis folk
Penis folk show them to me unrequested
Penis folk have made me scared
Penis folk want to tell me who I am and what I am
Penis folk want to tell me why I am so wrong about penis folk
Penis folk want me to understand that all my experience is piffle paffle blah blah
Penis folk want me to understand that everything is all about them all of the time.

Perfect!

Rufustheyawningreindeer · 23/07/2018 18:34

No idea

But if dh is at all spooked it can take days

He still goes on about the best 3 baht he ever spent (on holiday)

Rufustheyawningreindeer · 23/07/2018 18:32

I like im off for a wizz

ItsAllGoingToBeFine · 23/07/2018 18:32

Is there actually a reason why men take so much longer having a shit than women?

I've always assumed it's an avoidance technique.

HotRocker · 23/07/2018 18:30

Is there actually a reason why men take so much longer having a shit than women? Serious question. Is it something to do with our pelvic floor muscles or something, or do they just sit and wait for it to fall out?

HotRocker · 23/07/2018 18:24

Where I come from, in the Black Country, going for a poo is called gooin for a muck, and going for a wee is gooin for a wet.
It’s absolutely guaranteed to send my mum apoplectic so I save it for special occasions just to wind her up.

RogerAllamsFangirl · 23/07/2018 18:19

Please don't worry about lurkers. The main risk for us at the moment is dying laughing at the misogynist, bullshit non sequiturs.

AngryAttackKittens · 23/07/2018 18:18

I eat tons of veg now, didn't when I was younger. Not much change on the digestive front. Meanwhile dad now eats plenty of veg and still may as well take a sleeping bag and a pillow into the toilet with him.

BettyDuMonde · 23/07/2018 18:18

I wouldn’t go back to that bar, Prawn! I hope you left a trip advisor review?

Bumbungo · 23/07/2018 18:17

I think the women here have found their voices. They're all saying NO in unison. Maybe it's your hearing that's the issue

YES!

Rufustheyawningreindeer · 23/07/2018 18:16

lancelottie

I reckon its sex

I dont eat veg and im in and out as it were

Prawnofthepatriarchy · 23/07/2018 18:16

A bar I visited recently had two loos labelled cubicles and urinals. So one for men and one unisex which men were using to do a dump in and therefore stank. Talk about worst, of both worlds...

Lancelottie · 23/07/2018 18:15

Do you think it's genuinely sex-linked, AAK I'd always assumed it was mostly 'actually eats veg rather than crisps'-linked, coupled with a bit of premenstrual Digestive Disaster for luck.

ScienceIsTruth · 23/07/2018 18:15

So which is it, your?

Either men aren't a danger, in which case there's no reason for you not to use the men's facilities seeing as you are biologically male

OR

Men are a danger, in which case we don't want you in our spaces because whether you accept/like it or not, you are male.

Which is it?

BettyDuMonde · 23/07/2018 18:14

I once found a ‘Barbara Cartland advises on Sex and the Teenager’ book in a chazza shop.

Ereshkigal · 23/07/2018 18:13

I love U and Non U. I used to have a Barbara Cartland etiquette guide an older relative gave me. It was great! Don't wear curlers when your husband is home.

AngryAttackKittens · 23/07/2018 18:09

(Revels in efficient digestive system privilege, which does seem to be sex linked.)

BettyDuMonde · 23/07/2018 18:05

Men taking ages when ‘going for a think’ is yet another good reason for keeping sex segregated toilets.