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James Kirkup speaks up again - 'Are female prisoners at risk from transgender inmates?' The Spectator 20/07

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BoreOfWhabylon · 20/07/2018 10:56

Another great Spectator article
blogs.spectator.co.uk/2018/07/are-female-prisoners-at-risk-from-transgender-inmates/

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boatyardblues · 21/07/2018 13:40

recent /current threads with collated concerns:

Yes, lurking journos - MNers have already done a lot of the legwork. It shouldn’t be too much trouble to join the dots.

R0wantrees · 21/07/2018 12:24
R0wantrees · 21/07/2018 12:21

Yes. WHERE is the investigative journalism on all the safeguarding issues we keep bringing up? It's not as though it's anybody's opinion. It's there. In black and white. In trans lobby guidance. Where is the journalist willing to research and compare safeguarding statutory guidance with trans lobby guidance?

recent /current threads with collated concerns:
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/a3301266-Safeguarding-girls-and-protecting-women-post-Jimmy-Saville-metoo

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3297184-Your-comments-for-Penny-Mordaunt

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/site_stuff/3297067-Mumsnet-moderation-response-to-yesterdays-feedback

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3312963-Every-parent-should-read-transactivisms-dangerous-myth-of-parental-rejection

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3301871-What-do-educators-make-of-what-is-happening-in-our-schools?

AngryAttackKittens · 21/07/2018 12:20

"And now, to follow our segment on this maritime disaster, a member of the Flat Earth Society will explain how it's 100% possible to sail off the edge of the world."

R0wantrees · 21/07/2018 12:16

Yes sorry both, I got disracted and the post above is out of sinc- not a response to your comments.

Completely agree, with regards need for investigative journalism.

It feels like we are still very much stuck in the 'there must be balance, let's get NIgel Lawson to comment on climate change'

It is not acceptable. These are such serious matters

LangCleg · 21/07/2018 12:08

Hadley has indeed been sticking her head over the parapet. And not to in any way slight her, because she's great, but all the investigative journalists who're failing to do the same ought to have a bit of a think about why the fashion columnist is doing actual journalism better than they are.

Yes. WHERE is the investigative journalism on all the safeguarding issues we keep bringing up? It's not as though it's anybody's opinion. It's there. In black and white. In trans lobby guidance. Where is the journalist willing to research and compare safeguarding statutory guidance with trans lobby guidance?

AngryAttackKittens · 21/07/2018 12:04

Hadley has indeed been sticking her head over the parapet. And not to in any way slight her, because she's great, but all the investigative journalists who're failing to do the same ought to have a bit of a think about why the fashion columnist is doing actual journalism better than they are.

LangCleg · 21/07/2018 11:43

Andrew Gilligan.

These are the only three I can think of who are providing anything more than opinion pieces (and we all know there are ten TRA opinion pieces to every one GC piece).

AngryAttackKittens · 21/07/2018 11:34

Janice Turner has also been doing a great job on this, so that's two. Out of how many?

AngryAttackKittens · 21/07/2018 11:33

Kirkup continues to produce excellent work, but that being said, why is he almost the only one? Other prominent British journalists aren't exactly covering themselves in glory here in terms of their ability to do basic research and provide an objective overview of the situation.

loveyouradvice · 21/07/2018 11:20

Another one saying a huge thank you to James... your journalism is exceptional and the fact you are using it to discuss these issues is both brave and so important....

LadyLauraOver · 20/07/2018 23:11

Thank you James. Again.

Indierockandroll · 20/07/2018 22:57

Thank you James. Another measured article that gets to the heart of the issue.

Viago · 20/07/2018 21:46

@hackmum I think if you register you get a month's free access to all online stuff atm.

LastGirlOnTheLeft · 20/07/2018 21:06

Well done, James. A hundred thanks!! Right now you are singlehandedly restoring my faith in men! LastBoyOnTheLeft excluded!

boatyardblues · 20/07/2018 20:50

James is consistently on point on this topic. Another well researched, well argued piece. Thank you.

hackmum · 20/07/2018 20:37

It was good to read that. I’ve read some of those quotes before, but have been looking for them recently without finding them. Important to have them all in the same place. People can’t deny they were warned this would happen.

hipsterfun · 20/07/2018 19:55

Another week, another excellent article!

Thanks, James Smile

R0wantrees · 20/07/2018 18:13

James - if you are lurking, firstly hi and thanks! and secondly, please could you investigate locked mental health wards. Sectioned women have even less of a voice than female inmates do and there has already been one instance of inappropriate inclusion on the basis of gender identity

Further to @LangCleg 's request, there is a recent thread discsussing this and with important comments from women who may be affected:
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3297578-NHS-confuse-sex-and-gender-on-advice-about-The-Mental-Health-Act

adding my thanks to you and The Spectator

UglyCathKidstonBag · 20/07/2018 17:49

James, I thank you for taking a stand for women, particularly vulnerable women. When we women speak about this topic - even academics, field experts, doctors, scientists and those with experience - we are cornered and attacked.

I would be very interested in hearing your opinions on Facebook banning links to certain websites because of TRA pressures, along with Twitter suspending women for politely stating biological facts.

Floisme · 20/07/2018 17:26

Thank you again James. And yes I am fast losing patience with these senior politicians who huddle in corners whispering their concerns to him but who won't speak out. I can understand it must be frightening but what's the point of being in politics if you're going to bottle it like this?

speakingwoman · 20/07/2018 17:11

good article.

I don't think it's fair to post the whole thing. We need The Spectator to continue to exist.

gendercritter · 20/07/2018 16:59

I love him for those prods to the politicos. Cowards, the lot of them. Leaving the risk and the danger to ordinary women. The bastards.

Absolutely. I hope everyone who is prepared to throw vulnerable women under a bus will be remembered for that in the way the Iraq war is Tony Blair's legacy. They are a disgrace.

Ereshkigal · 20/07/2018 16:57

YY.