Am I Agender? Are you?

I don’t care about gender. At all. I won’t opt in or out because it serves no purpose for me.

I am agender insofar as my Patreon is concerned.

Otherwise, I'm a woman. The proper kind.

If agender means you don't IDENTIFY with a gender, then sure a lot of people are agender.

If agender means you do not HAVE any sort of gender, then no, nobody is agender. Gender is a tool of oppression and we are all affected by it whether we willingly submit to that or not. The whole point about gender is that it comes from without, not from within. When other people treat you 'like a woman' (in a way that is different from the way they would treat a man in the same circumstance) you are being gendered. We have all been gendered on a daily basis since we were born and obviously that affects the way we see ourselves and others and every single human interaction we have. We can and should resist that with all our might but we cannot opt out.

I do not identify with the feminine gender but I have been gendered feminine (and it sucks).

No, I am not agender. To be agender you would need to believe in the self-ID gender edifice in principle. A gendercritical person describing herself agender is akin to an atheist describing herself as a heathen, imo.

Where is this quiz, @Caaarrrl? I am yet to submit my consultation response and would like to identify myself correctly - as well as signpost those reviewing my response to it. Maybe they'll find they're agender too?

I know what you mean, OP. I've been in many conversations on Twitter where TRAs say that I'm 'cis' despite my insistence that I don't have a gender identity. Usually the argument is that everyone has one, and if I'm not aware of mine and don't experience an innate feeling of gender, it's somehow proof that I'm 'cis.' Despite my extreme discomfort with performative femininity because - well, I'm a feminist. Gender is a social construct that harms women.

I started to ask them 'what about agender people?' with links from trans ideology-approved sites describing it. Usually, they then stop replying. I did have one individual try to tell me that I couldn't be agender because I described myself as a woman and 'woman is a gender' - according to this TRA, being agender means not calling yourself 'man' or 'woman' and using those silly made-up pronouns like xe. Not true according to any definition of being agender that I've read.

If we lose the fight, we may have to give up 'woman' and retreat to 'agender female' - which is awful, but I'd rather do that that use a word which has come to mean 'I willingly identify with feminine stereotypes' and nothing else.

Yup, if I had to pick one of the bullshit terms for myself, it would be a-gender as I do not have a gender identity at all and think its just a bunch of stereotypes + personality

In all seriousness, if we lose this fight and I'm asked for gender identity rather than sex on forms, I'm going to have to identify as "non-binary" or "agender". Damned if I'm going to identify with gender, I have a deep internal feeling that it's a load of bollocks crappy stereotypes.

I can read a map and know one end of a screwdriver from the other. I am therefore not agender, I am a man.

I just happen to have a vagina, wear dresses and have grown a baby inside me and given birth to an amazing child, but that map reading ability makes me 100% a man I want to be agender though, can I self identify as agender???

I am agender in the same way I am atelekinetic and acreationist and apsychic.

As in, it's bonkers to define myself in direct reference to a theoretical state of existence which I refute in the first place.

Did stonewall open the trans umbrella so wide so as to claim greater statistical numbers of transpeople?

It really makes no sense to say cross dressers are women, and therefore should be able to represent women politically. It’s already a stretch when we’re talking full-time long term presenting-as-woman due to male bodied people not having the same societal challenges as female bodied people (such as being limited to the ‘mummy-track’ at work just because you are 30ish and might want maternity leave at some point in the next decade).

@OvaHere 'As an agendered individual (recognised under the Stonewall Trans umbrella) who identifies with biological sex....

Yes, I was thinking it makes sense to do the same thing. Discussions on here show that many of us fit these new-fangled trans-identity definitions. Although we don't ordinarily identify as such because we also happen to think it's bullshit maybe if we were children of today we would. So in honour of a fully "woke" version of myself and for the purposes of the consultation, I plan to identify as an agender biological female and make clear my concerns regarding sex-based protections.

I'm going to start all my consultation answers

'As an agendered individual (recognised under the Stonewall Trans umbrella) who identifies with biological sex....

Stonewall made the trans umbrella so big we’re all under it now...

Sheltering from the gender fluid

Sadly, not my joke, but one I stole from the always entertaining datalounge.com - NSFW!

Self ID supports each person deciding their own gender so what information does this actually communicate officialdom? That you have made a decision. You have picked an option. Nothing else really. You could be either sex. Health issues that might affect you are unknown. Accommodations that might have to be made for your physical needs, unknown.

In some ways it's an argument in terms of what you prefer to disclose to officials: sex or gender.

My initial thinking is why do officials need to know your gender? Sex, yes, is relevant for making provision in terms of differing medical and health issues occurring between the sexes and ensuring there is no discrimination in relation to this. Gender is only relevant in contexts where there is sex discrimination, for example if different rules are enforced for no biological reason.

I love me. I love my female form. I love that my body produced children. And I've had female diseases too.

The persistent effort by Followers of Genderism to replace the noun sex with the verb gender has already gone too far.

But OP, with self ID, in theory, you would self define your gender so do not have to accept that definition...

So...ahem...you fit any gender and non as you see fit. (Unless you argue against this and are deemed 'cis', I suppose).

I find it bemusing that being "agender" - not having a gender - is a type of gender.

The whole ideology is so ridiculous.

Yep I'm agender and so exactly the same in my uniqueness of being as my male agender friends.