Diva editor, responds to 'lesbian rights alliance' article in the times.

The only thing Linda Riley gives a shit about is her wallet. I doubt very much she believes a man can be a lesbian and I’d also bet you’d never find a cock in her bed.

But it's worse for bisexual people, and even more so for trans people who are also lesbian or bisexual. That's why it's so important that a magazine like DIVA exists, and that an organisation like Stonewall is women-led and promotes bi and trans inclusion

I rolled my eyes so hard at this. Lesbians! Ye are not as oppressed as male lesbians. Go away and flagellate thyselves for thy privilege.

Basically heterosexuality is OK and same sex attraction is disgusting.

At least when it comes to women.

Who'd a thunk it.

Lesbain now carries a certain amount of cache I think

If you are a lesbian with a dick.

The old fashioned cunty sort of lesbians who are all too often unwilling to confirm to femininity in many / any ways at all, and have a distressing tendancy to be unapologetic and hardcore feminists, they are way way out. I mean who ever liked them anyway? New breed are a vast improvement.

I'll even go "Offended of Tunbridge Wells" and go as far as calling it disgusting.

"Rebranding" lesbians/gay men as both sex attracted and discouraging bisexuality as a "brand" for those people (poor wording, but hopefully the meaning gets through!) is blatantly biphobic (denial of bisexuality) and homophobic/lesbophobic (denial of their right to be ONLY same sex attracted). I can't see how anyone can see it as anything else, tbh.

Yes. All this does seem very biphobic.

Pride and LGBT in general is suppposed to be about freedom to love whoever and express yourself however, not about legitimising and maybe even encouraging internal shame in bisexuals because they don't line up with the L or G.

So lesbian means: Likes people with cunts and also with dicks.

That is a total redinition of the word lesbian, which used to mean, likes people with cunts.

Note: Lesbain never meant: attracted to femininity, attracted to internal gender ID, etc etc. It meant, same sex attracted - cunt.

The words lesbian, woman, girl, female, and biological sex have now been altered to include people with cocks.

The words we are left are, if I am tallying correctly, "reproductive role", but, I'm not sure what the cunty side of that is called TBH and suspect that will be gone soon anyway.

Meanwhile, I await with interest mainstream "lesbian" pornography changing to show two people with cocks, and all the male viewers giving it a thumbs up.

Sorry, what are 'monosexuals'?

That would be people exclusively attracted to one sex. So heterosexual, lesbian, gay. Only people who aren't monosexual are bi people like me.

Having sex with both biological sexes makes you bi, regardless of whether you'd prefer to call yourself a lesbian, a gay man or heterosexual. Reminds me very much of the "men who have sex with men" who are ashamed to call themselves gay/bi, and it's actually really upsetting to read/hear as a bisexual.

I think the definition of the term 'pansexual' is somewhat illuminating:
' not limited in sexual choice with regard to biological sex, gender, or gender identity.'

... the corollary is, there are people whose sexual choices are limited by those different criteria. (As presumably we all know). Since when has 'lesbian' not been defined in terms of biological sex?

'no if's no buts' no cocks

lesbian = adult female homosexual

trans lesbian partner

Unless you mean a transman whose preference is females, there's your logic fail.

Who the fuck would think DIVA has anything to do with lesbians?

Pomo queer take over laaang time ago.

I can't quite see how it's homophobic, unless the person thinks there's something wrong with being bi.

Yes, do double down, garam. We're all ears.

telling lesbians they are now bisexual for being with a trans woman, is actually homophobic.

Break that down for me, in simple terms - are you saying that humans can change sex? You don’t believe that do you?

Words have meanings.

I am really sorry that you had to hear that OP but there it is. Have a and a little sit down and you'll feel better. Maybe breathe into a paper bag?

It's not a same SEX relationship however much you try to obfuscate. Words and definitions matter especially regarding the law and protecting rights.

Sexual orientation is a protected characteristic and refers to same sex relationships. Nothing to do with gender feels.

Stop being so homophobic garam

Yy lacy, everything you said.

Yes, garam - how do you feel about the incestuous chumocracy Popchyk illustrates? Do you feel that such a tiny niche of community members mostly concerned with mutual backslapping should be speaking for the entire community? That would seem rather elitist.