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David Starkey, 73, moans his broadcasting career has been ruined by 'old, ugly women'

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hungryhippie · 17/07/2018 08:00

www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-5960893/SEBASTIAN-SHAKESPEARE-David-Starkey-73-moans-career-ruined-old-ugly-women.html

"Outspoken historian David Starkey — one of television's most prolific Tudor experts — claims that his broadcasting career has been ruined by the popularity of his female rivals."

Maybe they are just better than you David?
What an arsehole

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LighthouseSouth · 19/07/2018 01:00

Ive been unlucky enough to experience a number of situations where he was present

I realised in the first encounter that he was vile and should be seen as such, but sadly I have seen people be really upset by him.

Rebecca36 · 19/07/2018 00:54

Erudite and interesting as he is, David Starkey must be one of the, if not the, rudest men in the country. He's always like it, there's no respite - and no-one is immune from his sharp tongue.

Judashascomeintosomemoney · 19/07/2018 00:41

hipster fnah Grin

HuguenotJo · 18/07/2018 22:55

Yes, LastGirl, Suzannah Lipscomb is amazing.

hipsterfun · 18/07/2018 21:58

See that unprepossessing, misogynistic has-been historian? That’s David Starkey, that is. That’s David Starkey, looking his best.

LastGirlOnTheLeft · 18/07/2018 21:04

Judas that picture of Mary is fantastic! She looks so beautiful and alive. I love that!!

David is annoyed because like most middle to late aged men, they have started to lose their unearned power and privilege . They are being treated now like women and they don't like it.

But instead of having the intelligence to see how badly women have had it for aaalllllllllllll these years, they just feel sorry for themselves!🤨 Equality always seems like oppression to men.

LastGirlOnTheLeft · 18/07/2018 20:58

Susannah Lipscombe anyone?? She is so utterly beautiful, so intelligent...she works for Channel Five but no one is perfect, right?🤗

katseyes7 · 18/07/2018 20:25

lf his career's been ruined by anyone old and ugly, it's him. Nasty piece of work.

Judashascomeintosomemoney · 18/07/2018 20:24

Helena that boy had the measure of Starkey. Haha, dyageddit? Measure? Ahem....
Anyway, turns out Starkey’s got history (oh, I’m on fire tonight), and was complaining about the ‘feminisation’ of history nearly ten years ago. Here he is in a previous tv debate with one of his contemporaries......

ErrolTheDragon · 18/07/2018 19:30

The link didn't open properly but I like the title. Did Jamie roast him after bunging on lugs of olive oil and smashing some garlic over him? Could only be an improvement, from the new statesman piece linked upthread he can be tasteless.

HelenaDove · 18/07/2018 19:10

cheerfully sleepless When Starkey was on Jamies Dream School he got upstaged by a young lad after he referenced the young lads weight.

The boys reply was Have you always been that short?

Bowlofbabelfish · 18/07/2018 19:09

judas Grin

DontDribbleOnTheCarpet · 18/07/2018 19:05

I suspect that Starkey sees ugliness as the worst accusation he can throw at a woman, or perhaps even he sees that there is nothing at all he can say about her work and that's the best he can do.
There are so many really inspirational women being talked about on this thread, it's quite cheering really.

Judashascomeintosomemoney · 18/07/2018 19:01

Oh Pythagonal, only just seen that, yes she’s brilliant isn’t she? I’d watch her just reading a train timetable tbh, she’d still make it amazing!

Judashascomeintosomemoney · 18/07/2018 19:00

Still trying to figure out what is ugly about Mary Beard
Absolutely nothing. Nothing whatsoever! She’s a perfectly normal looking woman
Actually, sorry bowl, I’d have to disagree with you for once, in a somewhat, possibly unfeministy way (but sod it I’m going to say it anyway!). I don’t think she’s perfectly normal. Look at her, the sexy minx, she looks amazing. I love her hair, she looks kind and warm and generous and that makes her very attractive afaiac. And, of course, we know how intelligent she is. I’m mean, you know, just phwoar all round really.

David Starkey, 73, moans his broadcasting career has been ruined by 'old, ugly women'
TheCountessofFitzdotterel · 18/07/2018 18:24

Still trying to figure out what is ugly about Mary Beard.

Her intelligence.
So unbecoming in a woman, don't you think?
Also, she keeps opening her mouth and speaking

bellinisurge · 18/07/2018 17:54

Hooray, another Janina Ramirez fan. As well as the great MB, of course.

Bowlofbabelfish · 18/07/2018 17:28

Still trying to figure out what is ugly about Mary Beard.

Absolutely nothing. Nothing whatsoever! She’s a perfectly normal looking woman, it’s SO bloody annoying to hear her described like that isn’t it? Women! Be decorative at all times or you’re worthless! Regardless of intelligence, personality, warmth, steely intellect or ability.

It’s my dream that one day we will be advanced enough as a species to have a ‘phwoar, look at the intellect on her’ moment or two :) still waiting....

DuggeesWoggle · 18/07/2018 17:23

So chuffed that the great MB has popped into this thread, I would so love to have a good chat with her. Her recent lecture on the treatment of women through history was fascinating - I wonder what she makes of the whole transactivism thing. I expect she would be able to point to parallel movements in history and the impact on women's rights.

David Starkey? Meh.

BBC 4 has loads of great female historians on and it matters not one bit what they look like (although o do love Janina Ramirez's gothness). They are intelligent articulate women and long may it continue!

80sMum · 18/07/2018 17:23

I have never come across a more boring, monotonous drone on TV than Mr Starkey! He has the ability to make even the most fascinating subject seem tedious and dull. Whenever he is on the TV I find myself nodding off after 10 minutes or so.

Mary Beard, on the other hand, is dynamic and engaging and brings the subject to life, making me sit up and take notice.

I'm sure they both know their subject inside out. But knowledge of a subject doesn't make one a good teacher or, as in this case, a good presenter.

Melanippe · 18/07/2018 17:12

Love Mary Beard.

One of the highlights of my Twitter account is that she occasionally likes some of my tweets. And she replied to me once.

I love that she says what she thinks and backs it up with evidence. I've found the way she has been attacked at various times incredibly vile, but she deals with it like a pro. If I ever grow up, I should like to be just like her right down to the lovely red shoes.

ohamIreally · 18/07/2018 17:06

@Melamin thanks for the clicky link

MinaPaws · 18/07/2018 16:55

Still trying to figure out what is ugly about Mary Beard. She has a gorgeous warm face with intelligent eyes and fantastic hair. Not that that should matter as it's her outstanding mind and depth of knowledge that got her the job.

She's the best.

PaulHollywoodsSexGut · 18/07/2018 16:49

David Starkey is a pugnacious shitweasel.