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Historically Claiming People as Trans

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UglyCathKidstonBag · 13/07/2018 23:24

Has anyone got any examples of this?
I’ve been reading a bit into Stonewall and how it was set up and one group seem to claim Sylvia Rivera as trans whilst others dispute this.

And Dante Tex Gill (who Scarlett J was set to play) is now being called trans which many people all dispute.

A woman I went to university with (who to be fair I only spoke to a few times) was, amongst the people who knew and lived with, always a lesbian. She was butch and used the unisex shortening of her name and always referred to herself as a woman.
Sadly she died about 18 months ago. Recently people outside of her social circle, at a uni event, starting calling her a “trans man” and have even changed her Wikipedia page to reflect their view point.

Are there further examples?

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noeffingidea · 14/07/2018 06:42

I've heard that a few people on Tumblr tried to trans David Bowie and Prince after they died. Well Bowie wore a dress and makeup a few times, and Prince ... liked purple, so yeah.

womanformallyknownaswoman · 14/07/2018 05:19

castrati

I just looked at the historical methods used to keep the falsetto voice and stop puberty 😯

There are many parallels with what I read of the puberty blockers - oh dear those poor children

womanformallyknownaswoman · 14/07/2018 05:14

Isn't there a religious cult - The Mormons- who baptise people after their death without consent?

What's being described here goes further than that though - unconscionable behaviour (thx Lang's dad)

Really these people know no bounds. Is any of this reportable as a crime? Viscerally it's analogous to interfering with a corpse

GardenGeek · 14/07/2018 05:08

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thebewilderness · 14/07/2018 05:05

Maybe they were referring to the eunuchs or possibly the casterati?

womanformallyknownaswoman · 14/07/2018 04:42

I noticed Ruth of Stonedall saying something like Trans have always been oppressed throughout history 🤔🤔

First I've heard of it - maybe they've transed the whole of history now - which would be in keeping with what's being described

thebewilderness · 14/07/2018 00:35

Stormé DeLarverie was until recently credited with inspiring the uprising at Stonewall.
TRAs not only transitioning Lesbians and Gays to take credit for their achievements, in the tradition of men throughout history, but posthumously transitioning a Gay male drag performer who was not even there in order to give them credit for what a Lesbian inspired tells the world exactly who they are.

nauticant · 13/07/2018 23:57

James Barry is another one. (She might be linked to above.)

Offred · 13/07/2018 23:44

They have been trying to rewrite his wiki page for an age...

AncientLights · 13/07/2018 23:44

This is another link the TRAs have with religion. The Church of Jesus Christ & Latter Day Saints (Mormons) do posthumous conversions to their religion. That's why they have such an interest in family history. So we could all end up dead trans Mormons. But I bet they wouldn't convert trans people. Probably don't approve of that.

Offred · 13/07/2018 23:42

Marsha p Johnson who trans activists have retroactively claimed and are now using to justify claims that ‘trans people started pride’ re get the l out...

That really really saddens me. Marsha P (ay it no mind!) was a gay man and a drag queen...

TrumpsToddlerTantrums · 13/07/2018 23:38

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UglyCathKidstonBag · 13/07/2018 23:35

transing the dead

Wow, I am disgusted.
So any woman not wearing a dress, can expect to be transed when they are no longer.

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LaSquirrel · 13/07/2018 23:30

Cross-posted, clearly.

LaSquirrel · 13/07/2018 23:30

It is called "transing the dead", and they do it once the GNC people are dead so they cannot be disputed.

Sylvia Rivera was a drag queen I think, not 'trans' (trans themselves make that distinction, but happy to TTD it seems).

I think they claim Joan D'Arc was trans, even though ignoring the historical context forbidding what women could do.

Teena Brandon, this one not clear cut, because she did pose as a boy because she was a lesbian, and I think 'small town mentality'.
www.triviavoices.com/the-inconvenient-truth-about-teena-brandon.html

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UglyCathKidstonBag · 13/07/2018 23:28

I did see a tweet, and probably have a ss somewhere, claiming Joan of arc as a trans

Oh aye?

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Amalfimamma · 13/07/2018 23:26

I did see a tweet, and probably have a ss somewhere, claiming Joan of arc as a trans woman.

I kid you not.