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Are there any 'famous' supporters apart from Alison Moyet and Graham Linehan

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TheBiologicalWoman · 13/07/2018 17:07

Alison Moyet and Graham Linehan are the only two I've seen standing up for women in the current 'debate' between women and TRAs.

So, for example regarding women's rights and abortion laws, we had Caitlin Moran, Grace Dent Sharon Horgan etc. Publicly speaking up.

Having not been tuned in to the beginning of this, I wonder if I have missed the presence of any other well known public figures speaking out against misogony, who may help draw attention to the issue.

I know there are several courageous academics who are in the public eye, but I wonder when/if those in the media will step forward.

We all know Stephen's Fry's viewpoint sadly. I disagree with his opinions wholeheartedly, but he has voiced them now and I wonder who else will air their views next.

I can see the

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Pratchet · 14/07/2018 08:24

They are getting off on the increased traffic to their twitter account. Disgusting. Thanks for the alert.

Pratchet · 14/07/2018 08:21

I have just found manic squirrel

Pratchet · 14/07/2018 08:19

There’s a horrendous individual on Twitter at the moment who has posted photos of the children of GC women from Facebook. Lots of pp have reported them to Twitter but nothing has been done about it

What the actual fuck

R0wantrees · 14/07/2018 07:58

I take HRT (the R is significant) and do not get 'hormonal mood swings'.

Only if I forget to get a repeat prescription / leave it at home when I am away and do not take the medication for a few days.

Women have been taking HRT for many years, I haven't seen papers discussing this apparent side effect apart from whilst finding the appropropriate dosage or method for taking it.

Do you have evidence for this Bespin , I would be interested in it?

NanaNoodleman · 14/07/2018 07:54

Rod Liddle is unsurprisingly critical - more surprisingly, seems to be a friend/ally of Julie Bindel.
Bundle of contradictions, is rod

Bespin · 14/07/2018 07:50

UglyCathKidstonBag

sorry just seen this was a little drunk. last night that other thread the consept is bullshit I dislike it when we appropriate things we don't have do people taking hrt get hormonal mood swings totally is a period no.

NanaNoodleman · 14/07/2018 07:48

Caitlin Moran is a fervent Corbyn supporter and judging by her writing, not intelligent enough to grasp the contradictions and absurdities of trans ideology. Also, she wants to make a lot of money, judging by how she’s hawking herself round the place.

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TheBiologicalWoman · 14/07/2018 07:17

Guessing Alison changed her mind when the misogonyists attacked her and stuck a derogatory pre-fix to her biological sex.

The fact she publically refused that forced pre-fix and exercsised her rights as a woman to call bullshit, gave exposure to the issue.

If that made just one of her many supporters sit up, then I have hope.

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UglyCathKidstonBag · 14/07/2018 02:30

Bespin I would love your input on this thread
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3305505-Transwomen-have-periods-too-you-know-Just-no-bleeding

Bespin · 14/07/2018 02:08

is that the Alison Moyet who said trans woman are women.

woman11017 · 13/07/2018 23:55

Money talks. Sad

Furx · 13/07/2018 23:53

I’d seriously love Frankie Boyle to wade in as GC on this one.

I think if he was on side he could peak trans most of the population in about 10 seconds.

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TheBiologicalWoman · 13/07/2018 23:44

I hadn't factored in all the sports people actually. There could be some allies there.

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anotherpersona · 13/07/2018 22:06

Lord Seb Coe in another with a sports background but also currently a university Chancellor. I think he was in favour of dropping the acceptable level of testosterone in female athletes.

NynaeveSedai · 13/07/2018 22:00

Lena Dunham has a 'trans sibling' she's not GC
Caroline Lucas is a koolaid drinker I'm afraid

anotherpersona · 13/07/2018 21:56

I wonder what Tanni Grey-Thompson thinks? She was Chair of the Commission on the Future of Women's Sport...but she is also Chancellor at a university.

OlennasWimple · 13/07/2018 21:50

I reckon Richard Herring is GC (see his sterling work on International Women's Day), and surely Victoria Coren-Mitchell and David Mitchell are too. I'd be surprised if the more, um, frank comedians like Frankie Boyle believed it was possible to change sex.

Itscurtainsforyou · 13/07/2018 21:45

@Destinysdaughter - I'm really concerned about this twitter account you mentioned. Where are they getting the details? Can you post/pm me with the name? (Want to make sure I'm not on it Shock)

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TheBiologicalWoman · 13/07/2018 21:33

My first introduction was Big Brother - say no more!

I remain optimistic. I've only been seriously following for five minutes and in that time alone I've seen Alison Moyet hounded and then back on Twitter, Stephen Fry show his true colours, the bravery of a group of women at Pride, Dr Kathleen Stock face defamation, Trans 'projection' (gotta be careful with my wording there as sure that's something else) all bringing this debate further into people's homes.

Surely we can't keep those front doors closed for much longer?

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Destinysdaughter · 13/07/2018 21:25

Caitlin Moran is no fucking feminist IMO, just a self publicist. I tried to read her book and it was so woolly headed I chucked it in the bin!

R0wantrees · 13/07/2018 21:16

I also think that more public figures will speak up. It may take a little time but things are definitely moving. Woman's Hour have announced they are running a series about gender & sex in the autumn and they have asked for contributions for this.

R0wantrees · 13/07/2018 21:14

TheBiologicalWoman It was the interview with India Willoughby that made me first aware. I heard a male voice say that women's hairy legs were 'dirty' & on Women's Hour too! Had no idea who it was and actually re-listened on catch up as I wondered if I had being hearing things.

I read Jenni Murray's article and felt relief that she had commented and then bemusement when she was publically rebuked by the BBC.... Dame Jenni Murray! Shock

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TheBiologicalWoman · 13/07/2018 21:09

R0wantrees Thanks for sharing that superb article. I found myself nodding throughout.

My local paper this week has an article on Caitlin's new book/film and an interview skirting around feminism.
I'd like to ask her at one of her live performances/talks what she thinks? I'd never do it in reality, for fear she'd run rings around me, but I really want to know.

These women who've always given a shit, I need them now. To give a shit publicly. But I say this behind the anonymity of a keyboard.

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