Government erasing women's voices on the GRA consultation

You can all purposely twist my words as much as you want to suit your own narrative. My point being that streamlining the process isn't a bad thing which is what the GRA amendments are about. Not making it easier to assault women.

Y but your daughter's sexual assault help prevent a transperson having to get their birth certificate from Australia. Every cloud has a silver lining.

AFTER women and girls have been assaulted? Really? We are not your human shields. Why don't YOU take the risks? After all, afterwards the criminals can be dealt with to the fullest extent of the law. Which is fine, right?

YY - ffs - the wilful lack of comprehension of safeguarding and putting women and children in harms way is telling.

And claiming a survey directed at a minority group is an impact assessment for the majority is well - economical with the truth at best and a gross failure of duty of care plus misleading Parliament at worse

AFTER women and girls have been assaulted? Really? We are not your human shields. Why don't YOU take the risks? After all, afterwards the criminals can be dealt with to the fullest extent of the law. Which is fine, right?

The devil is in the detail.

Well done FairPlay!!

Well that's definitely worth women and girls losing safety and privacy.

If it won't stop a determined pervert after the final GRA draft is implemented it most certainly won't stop them now anyway. These people should be fined heavily or dealt with to the fullest extent of the law.

Well that's definitely worth women and girls losing safety and privacy.

I answered it and pretty much said lower the restrictions and do away with Gender Recognition Panels. Show some form of commitment to your transition such as being on the list for a Gender Identity Clinic or be on Hormonal treatment. I mentioned that the period of commitment shown from the 2 years nonsense should be from when a diagnosis of Gender Dysphoria is given to when an application is granted/refused.

I also said that there will always be the unfortunate incidents of idiotic men trying to abuse this system but there needs to be robust checks in place by law enforcement to deal with these men. This system is no joke and should not be taken for granted. Severe fines imposed or if necessary what a court decides is appropriate.

For the question to do with employers and trans employees specifically to do with midwives I said that there are no jobs men can't do that a woman can't however a birth is a very special and intimate moment for a family and their comfort comes first.

If they aren't comfortable with a trans midwife then another should come in and take over. The mother is paramount in that situation. At least to me. In a situation like that a trans woman would need thicker skin and just get on with the job elsewhere.

One of the first few questions I think asked you to describe a personal experience of how the proposed GRC would be beneficial. I said it would be easier for me as currently I would need to get my Birth Certificate from Australia and that currently I cannot do as the required identification as mentioned on the Australian Government website I am unable to obtain as I am not an Australian Citizen.

Cutting the beaurocracy would aid me to get the GRC that would allow me to change my passport, bank details and update details with civil authorities.

If all straight people were screened out like it seems like they've excluded a certain proportion of trans or intersex people too who this consultation is supposed to listen to, right?

This doctor claims they won't talk and have to report each other, it's a sinister government that ends in this situation.

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5952625/Christian-doctor-fired-saying-people-choose-gender-reveals-speak-out.html

We must all complete the consultation documents if you oppose self ID as many lesbians do say so
but we are not against Transsexuals who are old school both ways

the only things that concerns some of us Out Lesbians , is old friends becoming gay men after they have transitioned
its like a death in the family

The scandal is that there was no consultation on the protected characteristic of sex.

Does anyone believe that the proposals will have no impact on the Equality Act? Really?

The Impact Assessment as a whole is very thin on supporting evidence but makes a lot of wishful assertions. It's not what I would expect as a briefing for Parliament.

Absolutely. Or the shampoo/cosmetics ads that say x% said it worked and when you look it is x% of less than a hundred.

Or the suicide attempt stats that implied the 48% or whatever was nearly 1000 out of 2000 when it was actually 15 out of 27 of a self selected group.

No surprise from me that they did this.

Either there are only 39 lesbians in the uk, or only 39 who want to get the L out....... either way, that is quite illuminating of some of the propaganda that rears it's head on here.

Lesbians have different opinions. They are not a group speaking with one voice as Stonewall pretends.

That survey is not representative of, nor trying to listen to, the wide range of lesbian views on whether a man should be considered a lesbian/men should be allowed in women's changing rooms etc etc anymore than Stonewall or political LGBT groups are.

according to some threads on here, all lesbians unite against trans women..... because trans women erase lesbians.

I'm saying that seems to be quite false.

Garam are all trans people concerned about Lesbian rights?

It was for lgbt people, I thought all lesbians were concerned about trans rights?

Either there are only 39 lesbians in the uk, or only 39 who want to get the L out....... either way, that is quite illuminating of some of the propaganda that rears it's head on here.

it's worth no more than eight out of ten owners say their cats prefer it

Absolutely. Or the shampoo/cosmetics ads that say x% said it worked and when you look it is x% of less than a hundred.

If they only have 39 responses, they should go out and find some more. A primary school could have done better.

Only because they ignored lots of responses.

To quote transplants RTFT

I have RTFT, it seems it's you two who didn't read my earlier posts.

The woman should have written "a small humber of the LGBT respondents to the LGBT survey". Hang her from the castle gates.

Christ, you folks might want to try reading what I've written before jumping on me; I'm tired of making you look silly.

Obviously heterosexual males don't give a fig about having sex with a woman who has already had sex with a man.

Obviously heterosexual females would not like having sex with a man who has had sex with other men.

Obviously gays will never have sex with a woman who transitions to a man, even though trans men are men.

Obviously lesbians will never have sex with a man who transitions to a woman, even though trans women are women.

Oh and just in case you wondered Snappity why I put heterosexual into the Bisexual, there are bisexual men who will have sex with heterosexual women, without those women's knowledge that they are bisexual.

Does it matter if a bisexual woman has sex with a heterosexual man though? Snappity

That is such a scandal. The whole meyhodology was designed by transadvocates - it's worth no more than eight out of ten owners say their cats prefer it. Designed to marketise a policy. Shameful.

Straight women, unless they are trans or intersex, fell outside of the target population for the survey.

Hi Snappity Presumably straight men did too.

Can you explain to me what Lesbian, Gay and Bisexuality has to do with the Gender Recognition Act?

Lesbian = Female homosexual - sexual relations with same biological sex
Gay = Male homosexual - sexual relations with same biological sex

Bisexual = - sexual relations with same sex or opposite sex or the following:
Lesbian
Gay
Heterosexual

Heterosexual = someone who has a relationship with the opposite sex.

Male who transitions to be a woman and only wants sexual relationships with a woman is: heterosexual.

Female who transitions to be a man and only wants sexual relationships with a woman is: lesbian.