Grace Petrie on London protests

women are being erased by changes in guidelines, and changes in law that are happening with little knowledge and no consent, at the behest of well funded lobbying groups. It is only trans activists who get in a strop about words on screens.

Yy to this. Nuff said.

Oh shit

What a crosspost...

You people make this shit up over and over again

I will put money on someone having a screenshot of it

For what its worth i think you mispoke...but then you kept doing it even when people pointed out the 'issue' with it

We're talking about fully grown women with minds of their own who have the capacity and mental ability to refuse to sleep with someone they are not attracted to.

^^ Here's your words Daim. I'll let others decide how much 'shit' we're making up.

We are not talking about 'words on screens' - women are being erased by changes in guidelines, and changes in law that are happening with little knowledge and no consent, at the behest of well funded lobbying groups. It is only trans activists who get in a strop about words on screens.

If reading posts on here is having such a devastating impact on you and your mental health, I have to wonder WTF you are doing here. If 'words on a screen' erase you, you need to get some help with that. Cos it's feck all to do with anyone else.

I'm here because I choose to be. I have not been erased; more than one person erased me in their own minds, which is sad but not something I have any control over, therefore it makes no real odds to me.

I am getting help for, among other things, PTSD, anxiety and depression. With that said, I still have as much right to be here as anyone else.

Leia as you’re Talking so sneeringly about how “words on a screen” can’t possibly “erase” someone or their identity, do you also think it’s equally worthy of derision when GC feminists, including on this board, complain about women being erased by TRAs?

Maybe 7 years of arts education makes me view art criticism differently to most?

Hang on...let me just check...yup 53rdWay - yes it was!

It was because you said a women can avoid rape by just saying no

I did not say that at all. Rape is such a dangerous and triggering word to use when accusing people of anything. Whether it's trans people or other posters on this board. Nobody has any idea what other posters may have been through - to be accused of normalising and justifying rape is disgusting.

You people make this shit up over and over again. Is it any wonder liberal feminists run a mile from here.

Is there a special word or term for lesbians who don't like cock?

And what was your answer to that, again? “Rhymes with smurf” if I recall correctly?

The words some people use on here to converse with those who are not gender critical are undeniably unpleasant, and everyone's ability to process and disregard those types of insults varies depending on individual circumstances and personal mental health.

If reading posts on here is having such a devastating impact on you and your mental health, I have to wonder WTF you are doing here. If 'words on a screen' erase you, you need to get some help with that. Cos it's feck all to do with anyone else.

I've even been called a violent rape apologist. Simply because I'm not gender critical.

Nope. It was because you said a women can avoid rape by just saying no. You were posting absolutely vile MRA Tropes all over a thread where you also ignored a poster telling you of her experiences of the sexual assault/harassment Gracie Petrie says doesn't happen.

So no, you not being gender critical, would be a great big 'meh' on here if you weren't posting in FWR your rape apologist BS. You clearly indicated you have no fucking clue what rape culture is, and that you equate rape culture with accusing people of actual rape. Which just highlights your inability to even understand what you were talking about.

But do carry on with that faux innocence Daim, it's really convincing.

I did not know you were a lesbian daimbars.

(sorry, nothing to add!)

I stand by my criticism of Petrie’s music. She’s a musician in the public eye who came to my attention purely due to her comments on the lesbian erasure issue.

If I’d criticised her looks or some such, that would be well out of order, but art (music, visual art, drama) exists in a sphere where criticism is the other side of the same coin.

I posted a far better contemporary female singer songwriter purely because this thread had been flagged up on twitter. If someone wants to drive traffic over here, then I will happily show that traffic an alternative.

Maybe 7 years of arts education makes me view art criticism differently to most?

Its extremely hostile to repeatedly castigate lesbians for being same sex attracted.
To keep doing it then complain you are being called out for it is breathtakingly entitled.

Except I haven't done that. The closest I have come is saying that someone isn't less of a lesbian for having sex with a non-transitioned woman. And those two things are absolutely not the same.

Its extremely hostile to repeatedly castigate lesbians for being same sex attracted.

Nice straw man there seeing as I'm a lesbian who is same sex attracted!

Do women think lesbianism includes penises?

I have been asked this over and over again on Mumsnet.

I've responded to say I'm a female married to another female and it's nothing to do with me.

Some examples below:

Can some lesbians have a penis?

So as a lesbian, would you have sex with a penis?

Is there a special word or term for lesbians who don't like cock?

What is your definition of lesbian?

Its extremely hostile to repeatedly castigate lesbians for being same sex attracted.
To keep doing it then complain you are being called out for it is breathtakingly entitled.

Do women think lesbianism includes penises? I can't think anyone with a dictionary would think that. It's the absolute basic comprehension surely,.

The homophobia in insisting lesbian space and intimidate partners should include males is grotesque,

FWR is an extremely hostile environment for liberal feminists.

Most who come on here are scared off within hours so it turns into an echo chamber of the dominant gender critical.

I think this is why posters on Mumsnet have been surprised when people have responded with horror and disgust to the Pride protest - I think posters on Mumsnet think transphobia is the norm.

Gender critical shouldn't even be a thing. Who isn't critical of a list of shitty stereotypes or those that endorse them?

called a fuckwit, told I wasn't a feminist...simply for disagreeing with people who appear to be fairly well established on here.

Yep, par for the course on MN FWR!

Really? Did you really? How did mere words on a screen manage to do that?

'Mere words on a screen', as though the communication we use via the internet can't be harmful, powerful and identity-destroying when it becomes persistent?

Like daimbars, I was also called a man, made to feel I am a rape apologist, and called misogynistic even after I reasonably pointed out I am not any of those things.

The words some people use on here to converse with those who are not gender critical are undeniably unpleasant, and everyone's ability to process and disregard those types of insults varies depending on individual circumstances and personal mental health.

Anyone with enough patience can advance search other users posts - at least the ones that havent been deleted.