Grace Petrie on London protests

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*How many times do you come across trans activists in real life? Come on tell the truth?

I'm friends with lots of trans people and only know one activist. And they are pretty harmless, just post ridiculous memes sometimes.*

This is the thing. I think this debate (both sides) is far more focused on the online world than it is on the real one.

I know two trans women i would call “activists”, only in the sense that they constantly Facebook and tweet TRA talking points. These three are quite stereotypical TRAs (obsessed with anime, warhammer and fantasy, identify as lesbians more vocally than any female lesbians I’ve met and love sharing lesbian memes, work in male-dominated industries, make very little attempt to present as women and so on). In real life, they’re fine. They just behave like sort of socially inept men, really. I don’t think they’re coercing anyone, lesbian or otherwise, into sex.

Are aspects of trans ideology totally nonsensical? Yes, absolutely. Is it annoying to see someone claim your biological reality a merely an identity? It can be. Have the government and many private businesses given adequate thought to how to implement trans-friendly policies without affecting women and girls? Clearly, they have not. But I do think the pressure-cooker of Twitter in particular has caused the real-life impact of these things to be exaggerated.

Obviously I also think TRAs vastly overstate the real-life impact of “TERF” ideology.

Maybe ask yourself whether 'peak trans' - a term that announces your negativity towards all transgender people - is the position you really want to adopt. And then ask yourself why that is?

^nauticant

You're being goaded to wrestle with a pig ElenOfTheWays. Personally I wouldn't bother although it's completely up to you^

Nah. Im ok. I know the pig always has more fun. I don't intend to engage further.

I've made my point and I know good and well it was understood just fine.

The only time you would be interviewed under caution is if you were suspected of committing a crime.

That's right. They were.

They hadn't.

All four of them. Actually five.

The only person who's been successfully prosecuted is a transactivist who hit a pensioner.

It remains to be seen what happens to the bomber.

I think most people get irritated when they've been trying to have a good faith discussion but realise they're dealing with dishonesty.

Maybe ask yourself why you are trying to peak so many lurkers?

Are you a Gender Critical in disguise as a Follower of Genderism?

I know I bet there are a few readers on here sitting on their hands wanting to call me all the names under the sun.

Maybe ask yourself why you feel so angry? All this anger and hatred is exactly what the problem is.

TellsEveryoneRealFacts

You know one of these days I'm going to stop biting my tongue and just explode all over this board

That is what they want so that they can go and tell people how horrid MN is. Lol

Exactly why I'm biting my tongue. I just mutter darkly at the cat mostly.

Daimbars is trying

You're being goaded to wrestle with a pig ElenOfTheWays. Personally I wouldn't bother although it's completely up to you.

IRL I know of someone who is forever reporting people to police for doing things they haven't done when they get in her way. They go through all the rigmarole of interviewing under caution etc and then at the end of it there is never a crime to be guilty of and the person gets 'let off' because 'there is no evidence'. It seems to be a thing with bullies. I have no idea why the police don't just arrest this person for wasting police time, but apparently that is too hard now. It would save them a fortune though. The last victim went to the DM and did a sadface.

You know one of these days I'm going to stop biting my tongue and just explode all over this board

That is what they want so that they can go and tell people how horrid MN is. Lol.

I do feel sorry for Datun in a way, it must be hard to constantly defend the indefensible.

No daimbars that's a description of YOUR position.

I read these threads avidly every day and I have seen who you are and what you stand for very clearly.

I don't feel sorry for you though. I think you know EXACTLY what you're doing.

You know one of these days I'm going to stop biting my tongue and just explode all over this board

ElenOfTheWays

Speechless because you've realised it's true?

How many times do you come across trans activists in real life? Come on tell the truth?

I'm friends with lots of trans people and only know one activist. And they are pretty harmless, just post ridiculous memes sometimes.

I do feel sorry for Datun in a way, it must be hard to constantly defend the indefensible

LOL LOL

I love your posts daim - they are just so...peaky. Like golddust.

I do feel sorry for Datun in a way, it must be hard to constantly defend the indefensible.

It's literally the only thing GC feminists have to justify their transphobia. Screen shots from Twitter. It's why they are shared to death on here over and over again.

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Just speechless here.

I can hear Datun counting to 1,000,000 from here.

Of course stillathing - I came on here for that very reason. I wanted to understand the other side of the debate and if there was any reasoning behind it.

And there were some intelligent and articulate arguments that could almost have persuaded me.

Unfortunately they got drowned out by transphobic bullshit + repeatedly being insulted, troll hunted and abused didn't help.

It's at this point stillathing that if you reflect on the similarities between gender identity ideology and religious ideologies you'll find things make more sense.

Why would you be interviewed under caution if you were a victim?

The only time you would be interviewed under caution is if you were suspected of committing a crime.

But don't you ask yourself that, Daim? I do, many times a day. I was a student until recently and that kind of an attitude, a willingness to admit what I did not know, and question what I thought I did know, was one of the reasons I was able to gain a good mark in a tough subject.

stillathing

Glad to hear it.