Misogynistic bros part 1 zillion: Stephen Fry

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I'm a lesbian (not trans) and I have zero solidarity with those —protesting— protecting lesbians.

Fixed that for you (if formatting is up to it).

From the 2015 PN article linked above, 'Olly Alexander attacks Germaine Greer’s ‘horrifying’ comments about trans people'

(extract)
"He tweeted: “this is aggressive and violent hatred from germane greer, its so horrifying”.

The singer recently shared some coming out advice with young fans for National Coming Out Day.

Wearing a basketball t-shirt, he wrote on his Instagram: “In honour of National Coming Out Day I’ve come out inspired by Michael Jordan from one of my fav movies Space Jam.

“Coming out is a very personal thing, so you do it your way, whatever way that is, in your own time.

Just remember it’s good to talk… talk to your friends, talk to your parents, talk to your busted up 90s Space Jam VHS.

“Most importantly never ever be ashamed of who you are, because who you are is f**king awesome, don’t let anybody make you think differently.”

Glad others are talking about this. It really bothered me when I saw it as it struck me as just incredibly manipulative.

Famous dude being very dismissive about the possibility that self-ID might be a threat to women only spaces:

www.facebook.com/pg/Channel4News/posts/

It’s like, look this guy isn’t worried. And he’s pretty cool right? And he seems to think that if you are worried, you are subscribing to silly beliefs in ‘magic forcefields’, and you’re into ‘spreading fear’ and ‘misinformation’.

No argument, just a strong steer that one side of the debate is hip and cool, while the other side are not that bright, and/or possibly evil.

Yes Juells. Quite.

It's wonderful and empowering how all these men care so much about the rights of women that they're prepared to stand up and be counted.

As long it's the rights of transwomen, that is.

Olly Alexander interview with Channel 4 News last week,
the extract re his opinions about transwomen and women-only spaces etc is here:
twitter.com/Channel4News/status/1014889090939019266

previous relevent comments:
2018
www.pinknews.co.uk/2018/07/05/olly-alexander-trans-women-are-women/

2017
www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/music/news/olly-alexander-growing-up-gay-piers-morgan-damage-lgbtq-trans-rights-britannia-bbc-watch

2015
www.pinknews.co.uk/2015/10/29/olly-alexander-attacks-germaine-greers-horrifying-comments-about-trans-people/

I think he may have been on 'Lorraine' show this morning.

Well, well, well! Mr Fry is now tweeting about the OED being 90 this year. Asking people to tweet their favourite words. His is 'bundle' - suspect he's being a tad PA in that!

Anyone want to add 'woman' or 'lesbian' as I think Mr Fry likes dictionary definitions.

Anyone see the singer from Years and Years ,Olly Alexander, talking about how absolutely there should be women only spaces ? According to Olly, as trans women are women they would be included in that women only space....
WHY , given #metoo etc, is it so hard to understand why women need spaces where men aren’t allowed ? Where is the demonstrable difference between one man, sexually interested in women , and another, also sexually interested in women, who insists he is a woman ? Man number 2 doesn’t have to dress in a feminine way, or shave, he just has to declare this invisible essence of womanhood , and women are supposed to welcome him into womanhood, lesbians are supposed to fancy him ?

doctorcuntybollocks and 53rdWay

Homeopathic feminism grin “It might look just like the patriarchy to you, but actually it contains the molecule memory of an Andrea Dworkin book we briefly held near it once, therefore it’s feminist!”

dying over here! round of applause

I'm pleasantly surprised he's deleted the tweet though. I didn't think he would.

I do think he's a bit of a misogynist; however, you can't deny that he's brainy, much brainier than the likes of LOJ. I think he did 5 minutes of research, saw right through the whole interview, but knows that he can't be seen siding with lesbians, so is keeping quiet instead.

"homeopathic feminism"

Luckily for me, I didn't have one of these in my hand when I read that, as it would have ended up over the keyboard. So true!

Feminism does not have to be 'inclusive' (of men) any more than lesbians need to be 'inclusive' (of men).

Fry seems only to remove the foot from his mouth long enough to swap over feet. Yes, stellar track record of misogyny has Fry.

Luckily, <a class="break-all" href="https://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:_W6dvhfbnBwJ:twitter.com/stephenfry/status/1015957028454445056+&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=au&client=firefox-b" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">google cache helps this coward not to forget.

And some uppity women will keep reminding him.

I had to google “intercrural” and, unfortunately, I’ve never forgotten it grin Not sure I will either . Learned TMI from his books too.

Only just got here. So the tweet’s gone? Were the replies not going his way? So, a misogynist; a homophobe; a living, breathing example of the Dunning-Kruger effect AND a coward. Tedious wanker.

It was a BBC documentary he did a few years back, BeyondRaggydoll. Something to do with experiences of gay people (well, men) around the world.

There was a ranting African homophobe going on about anal sex and how disgusting it was, when SF interjected to say that he’d never had anal sex, preferring intercrural.

I had to google “intercrural” and, unfortunately, I’ve never forgotten it

Beyond

Rowan, I still haven't seen it, but my guess is that it isn't lupus

Glinner did tweet him a bit of a "...nope..." tweet.

Intercrural sex? How the hell does one learn a fact like that?! (not sure I want to know the answer tbh!)

Homeopathic feminism!!

We should keep that one; the so open minded their brains fell out lot wil probably rush to the new-age type feminism

*wondering even!

I have also been wordering what the character Dr. Gregory House might have to say about all this m'larkey m'colleague.

Does he have female friends?

He has female colleagues.

Fry, 53, continues: "I feel sorry for straight men. The only reason women will have sex with them is that sex is the price they are willing to pay for a relationship with a man, which is what they want," he said. "Of course, a lot of women will deny this and say, 'Oh no, but I love sex, I love it!' But do they go around having it the way that gay men do?"

So, the way gay men have sex is “the norm” and the fact women don’t generally go for public sex with total strangers (conveniently ignoring what a dangerous pursuit that would be for a woman, even if she wanted to) means they don’t enjoy sex?

Meanwhile, Stephen Fry himself only partakes in intercrural sex, like the ancient Greeks did, apparently. Make of that what you will.

Does he have female friends?
I think it was Grahame Linehan who put him right.