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ROGD

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Hoggirl765 · 06/07/2018 15:29

My 14 year old daughter has told me she is transgender - just three weeks ago. There has never been any sign. She’s not a girly flowery pink girl But is feminine nonetheless. I have read extensively about ROGD and believe this is the case here. Before I even knew the school had starting callin her by her new boys name and using male pronouns. They have told me that they will change the school records whether I like it or not. She has had a lot of emotional upset in her young life so all I want is be certain that this is not a manefestation of something else. Any advice???

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Hoggirl765 · 06/07/2018 18:04

Thanks for all the helpful suggestions. So good to know there are resources, info and other parents in the same position

To the less than help comment - I love my child and whatever the out my child will have my full support.

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BettyDuMonde · 06/07/2018 17:32

(Mostly born-female, which is why it’s such a peculiar phenomen, in the past there have always been far more transwomen than transmen)

LangCleg · 06/07/2018 17:28

Rapid Onset Gender Dysphoria.

(Referring to the huge uptick in adolescents declaring a trans status after no signs of such in earlier childhood.)

ErrolTheDragon · 06/07/2018 17:21

I don't have any skin in this game (thank goodness) but I'm curious what ROGD stands for - google is strangely unhelpful.

BettyDuMonde · 06/07/2018 16:15

Also, ask for a copy of your school’s policy in this area? We can probably retrace how it came about/who informed it and figure out how to negotiate it?

You are probably feeling a bit betrayed by the school right now (although I could be projecting how I would feel in your situation!) so get someone (relative or friend) to advocate for you if you prefer.

When I needed help negotiating with school due to conflict around my son’s autism, I got great support from my local branch of Parent Partnership. I have no idea how they approach this particular issue but I would recommend you sound them out. In our case, they attended school meetings as my advocate and got the Education Welfare Officer on my side, much to the surprise of the school.

It’s clear you love your child so try and be a swan and keep a calm, supportive exterior whilst figuring everything else out underneath.

Some people really do suffer from gender dysphoria and it is possible your daughter will be happier as your son, but the current climate makes it very difficult to know one way or the other.

The good thing is that the official NHS (Tavistock and Portland) line seems to be slowly, slowly and always with lots of parental involvement.

The difficulty is that some private routes have sprung up that provide medical transition assistance while on waiting lists for the NHS. This is fine for adults who can be held responsible for their own ‘informed consent’ but not good for parents and children.

There is also a black market route for hormones (although this is easier for MtF people to access, as the drugs are cheaper and easier to administer) so while I don’t want to scare you, it is something to be aware of.

(I’ve been researching a lot of this particular stuff recently because my middle daughter ticks all the boxes that put her at high risk, she’s coming up 12)

LangCleg · 06/07/2018 16:13

There is a support forum for parents concerned about potentially transient ROGD in their children here:

gendercriticalresources.com/Support/

It's a private forum so I can't tell you what advice is inside but I do believe it's likely to be helpful.

I hope everything works out for you and your child. (Hugs).

ThreeWeeBirds · 06/07/2018 16:12

@FloralBunting I think this is excellent advice Flowers

FloralBunting · 06/07/2018 16:05

Hoggirl765 good resource links already posted. I'm in a similar situation, my daughter announced this early last year, I think - time slips by so quickly I'm not sure how long it has been.
My advice, which I am sure, as a loving parent you don't need me to labour, is keep channels of communication open, love her as she is, don't attempt to change her 'presentation'. The whole propaganda machine is set up to make you and her adversaries unless you adopt the complete affirmation route. Don't buy into it. Remain her strongest advocate, but don't lie to her.
I wish you the very best xx

BettyDuMonde · 06/07/2018 15:54

m.youtube.com/watch?v=NUzn6j2id0A

Her name is Carey Callahan and she has a website: careycallahan.com/about/

(Apologies, correction from my previous post: she is still training to be a therapist, she’s not qualified yet)

BettyDuMonde · 06/07/2018 15:49

There is a US woman who is a ‘detransitioner’ (appears in the recent Atlantic article) who is now working as a therapist, specialising in this.

As there aren’t many people in her position, she posts YouTube videos for both therapists and parents to access. I saw one the other day that really captured my attention re: questions to ask of someone in your child’s position. I will go dig I out again.

UpstartCrow · 06/07/2018 15:36

How many of her school friends will she keep in contact with over the summer holidays? Are you going away at all? Can you keep her off social media?
And can you get her counselling in case there's something she needs to talk about?

Transgender Trend would be my go to organisation for advice and support for you both;
www.transgendertrend.com/

ThreeWeeBirds · 06/07/2018 15:34

I’m a therapist who does a lot of work with girls in the same situation as your daughter. Here are a few links to websites with useful info for parents:

4thwavenow.com/2016/12/17/a-mums-voyage-through-transtopia-helps-her-daughter-desist/

4thwavenow.com/2017/11/07/a-teen-desister-tells-her-story/

nymeses.blogspot.com/2014/07/advice-for-parents-of-teen-girls-and.html?m=1

4thwavenow.com/resource-index/

Hope they’re some help.