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I find male bodies in female spaces very threatening....

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loveyouradvice · 04/07/2018 22:56

.....it is as simple as that.

I want safe spaces where I know I can relax and know that there will not be male bodies present.... whether it is at the swimming pool, or in the ladies, or in so many situations...

And I find that in this tough world of ours in other situations I feel uplifted by being in women- only groups, nurturing, supporting, caring, sharing....

I know that many transwomen badly want to be women but the reality is that they do not have female bodies - their bodies can be very threatening, especially given so many of them do indeed keep male genitalia.

And more than that.... I feel threatened that I will lose those precious supportive women's spaces, having heard of so many others they have destroyed, whether it is Michfest or lesbian groups or even just women's groups where vulnerable women have ended up fleeing.

Is it ironic that the only sensitive transsexuals we seem to come across - the likes of Miranda Yardley et al - are quite clear that they are men and are keen to understand a "woman's lot".

I would feel far more reassured if there were transpeople who were wanting to be assimilated into a woman's world by understanding and sharing our causes, which never seems to happen and we never hear about - all we hear is of those who are closing down by demanding that trans issues are not excluded.....It feels so strange, I have never heard a woman campaigning for the end of FGM complain that it is not about them but about others....

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CardsforKittens · 04/07/2018 23:29

I'm not at all threatened by male bodies in women's spaces. Not a problem. Bring on the penises.

Except that I took my daughters swimming last year and there was a naked man in the women's changing room. My mouth said stuff before I had a chance to engage my brain. He left (still naked).

I don't think he was trans. But what do I know? There's no way to deduce someone's gender when they're naked. I could only deduce his sex. Which he was waving about as if he owned the place. Wanker.

TellsEveryoneRealFacts · 04/07/2018 23:29

So you keep telling us.

Bespin · 04/07/2018 23:28

This is a. Open public forum not a womans only. Space and if you do not wish for people to interact with you then that's fine, I happen to feel sorry that somone is effected like this and would want to offer reassurance that some trans poeple are trying to make a difference in. Woman's issues around the world and that we not the threat sometimes people feel we are

TellsEveryoneRealFacts · 04/07/2018 23:10

I was going to say 'on here too' but didn't have to as your first response shows what the problem is. They just cannot help themselves.

Bespin · 04/07/2018 23:07

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loveyouradvice · 04/07/2018 22:57

Sorry... rather rambling and incoherent... I feel so distressed and worried by all of this

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