Please can someone explain why the GRC process needs to be simpler?

Not in Malta it seems because following a change of gender (and that is definitely the case in Malta) birth certificates in the new gender are issued and the original sealed so that it can no longer be accessed by anyone.

Now you’ve veered into complete drivel.

Clearly neither you nor the Maltese legislature understand the meaning of the word “gender”.

Today 06:31 Snappity

You think it's possible to change sex, Snappity? Really?

Yes. Absolutely

Ok we are done. Go well.

If it can work in Ireland, Malta, California, Argentina (and soon Scotland I predict) etc why can't it work in England and Wales?

What’s your definition of “working”. It might have been introduced into law in those countries (fairly recently) but that’s no proof of success. It’s too soon to assess success in any case.

You think it's possible to change sex, Snappity? Really?

Yes. Absolutely.

No they don’t. They record sex.

Not in Malta it seems because following a change of gender (and that is definitely the case in Malta) birth certificates in the new gender are issued and the original sealed so that it can no longer be accessed by anyone.

Snappity 10/10 fr energy but you’re ferociously defending a nonsense.

If it can work in Ireland, Malta, California, Argentina (and soon Scotland I predict) etc why can't it work in England and Wales? (What is so different about England and Wales that Self-ID won't work here when it works elsewhere? That's what those who object to Self-ID just can't answer.

Well at least that’s given me a laugh. “In Malta BCs record gender” 😂

Do they ask the baby (fruitless) or the parents (ethically dodgy) 🙄

You think it's possible to change sex, Snappity? Really?

It recognises that birth certificates and everything else use gender.

No they don’t. They record sex.

Take a look a the Maltese law for an example of simplicity. tgeu.org/gender-identity-gender-expression-sex-characteristics-act-malta-2015/

None of this nonsense about trying to come up with differences between sex and gender we have in the UK. It recognises that birth certificates and everything else use gender. Simple. It avoids the gender critical hang ups about sex by making the law about gender across all public services and private functions - so single gender spaces. It has a very sensible approach to the treatment of minors. For very good reasons the law in Malta is regarded as significantly better than our own Gender Recognition Act.

Snappity 10/10 fr energy but you’re ferociously defending a nonsense. If transwomen have a real sense of being women, they should want some gatekeeing on that status too. All legal protections for all disadvantaged groups will effectively evaporate if self-identification (as a woman, as a child, as disabled, as a PoC, etc etc) is adopted.

Do you think the fact that the law says that,means people can actually change sex?

Yes. That is the law in England and Wales, and in many other countries.

Should be repealed

Under international law, it cannot be.

It’s an embarrassingly shoddy piece of law making whichever side of the fence you’re on; It repeatedly conflates sex and gender then has a wooly stab at legislating a kind of transubstantiation into existence.

Apart from s9 it is a dreadfully drafted law, on that we agree. It doesn't conflate sex and gender though. It had to recognise a change of sex to comply with the judgment of the European Court of Human Rights. It opted to add gender as well and that was sensible.

Should be repealed

It’s an embarrassingly shoddy piece of law making whichever side of the fence you’re on; It repeatedly conflates sex and gender then has a wooly stab at legislating a kind of transubstantiation into existence.

Then there are things like the evidence one has to provide. How can one provide utility bills in the new name if one lives with parents?

A bank statement, p60 or p45, benefit letter, driving license or passport will do in place of utility bills.
Only a deed poll is needed to change your name on any of the above documents and the deedpoll is £36.

Then the reports have to detail surgery. So how can a psychiatrist / psychologist - necessary to give the diagnosis of gender dysphoria - then become an expert on the surgeries someone has had?

Do they need to be an expert on surgery or is it possible they can understand medical terms like vaginoplasty, masectomy or phalloplasty?
I am not a surgeon but I know what all 3 of those terms mean.

Then there is the problem of intersex people. A diagnosis of gender dysphoria is impossible if one is intersex. All sorts of problems there.

Thats because intersex people are not trans. They are intersex. They have a biological medical condition not gender dysphoria and so do not require a diagnosis for it.
Intersex people need to campaign for their own rights to legally change their sex and be seen seperatly to the trans community. They are not the same and the few intersex people I have spoken to do not want to be put under the trans umbrella by medical proffessionals or the trans community.

It doesn't say you change sex. It means you can be treated under the law as if you were the opposite sex.

Do you think the fact that the law says that,means people can actually change sex?

Snappity: are you saying that S9 means you can actually change sex?

Read it yourself:

Where a full gender recognition certificate is issued to a person, the person’s gender becomes for all purposes the acquired gender (so that, if the acquired gender is the male gender, the person’s sex becomes that of a man and, if it is the female gender, the person’s sex becomes that of a woman).

And note that it uses the word woman very explicitly. It is why all these posts that "trans women are not women" are abhorrently about trying to remove the legal status of some women.

The delay in being able to see a GIC to get a diagnosis of gender dysphoria is a strong argument in favour of Self-ID

It’s a good argument for pumping money into medical services for GID patients.

They’ve got to change it from the GRA to the SRA, if they’re making changes. This gender nonsense is cringeworthy in its stupidity.

There are no good arguments in favour of Self ID.

Snappity: are you saying that S9 means you can actually change sex?

There are seven NHS Gender identity Clinics currently.
The problem seems to be that they are turning people down at the clinics.. Transgender advocates want to institute Self ID so that people who want to transition will not, can not, be told no.

Good point. The delay in being able to see a GIC to get a diagnosis of gender dysphoria is a strong argument in favour of Self-ID.

It's impossible to change sex and the law acknowledges this.

So how do you read s9 of the Gender Recognition Act? Or understand the recent MB decision in the European Court of Justice where MB changed sex to qualify for pension (but not gender according to the judgement) without getting a GRC?

And even if you managed to get the law changed in this country, then someone from Ireland can freely enter and be treated as a woman in law on the basis of her Self-ID in Ireland - and she will have the birth certificate to back it up. Scotland will probably be added to that list over the next 12 months.

Even if you got the right to see GRCs that would not allow you to see them for people who have used a legal framework other than England and Wales to change sex.