The snake eats its tail: Twitter furious that Scar Jo is playing a trans man in next movie

I'm constantly amazed at the double think that insists transgender men ARE men but but but are also totally distinguishable from men and in need of special treatment. You can't be BOTH a real, authentic man or woman AND trans. It's a contradiction.

ENOUGH WITH THE DOUBLESPEAK.

Ah ok I see. Since when did they care about Transmen?
They almost always use transmen for legal precedents. There were many teen boys forcing their way into girls changing rooms in the name of gender identity rights but to go to court they finally found a transman who insisted on their right to shower with the males.

The transgender lobbyist position has been for some time that only trans persons should represent trans person in fiction or anywhere else.

When asked why this rather unusual rule only applies to transgenders the response was because reasons.

Sardines you are making me snort with laughter here and it isn't very ladylike.

Woman plays Woman who wants to be Man Shock!

A transman is a man.

"Presentation" is nothing to do with gender ID.

Biology is meaningless, noneistent and irrelevant.

Any sort of person can play any sort of part, because who is anyone to say what or who anyone is? On the inside. (How do they know what Scarlet Johansson's internal gender ID is?)

Meanwhile I await the day that het men happily sit down to watch a spot of "lesbian porn" featuring two strapping muscular lasses with big cocks.

I think the idea is that all parts for men must be played by men

And all parts for women must be played by transwomen

Sams theory as sports, AWS etc etc

So, a transman can be played by a transwoman or a man.

Menwhile, there are plenty of support roles that cunty people can get involved in - film sets often need cleaning, and even the biggest stars need food for e.g. sandwiches.

Ah ok I see. Since when did they care about Transmen?😕.

& yes, played by a man or Transman of course should be no issue at all. It's man playing a man.

Except that SJ playing a Transman starts from the same premise doesn't it as a Transman isn't a natal born man (am I allowed to say that?) so there shouldn't be any issue re her playing the part

Rules regulations TRA foibles..it's all confusing..

If identity politics continues at this rate actors will only be allowed to play actors and all films will have to be films about films.....

Actually I totally agree with casting more disabled actors and BAME actors. But the irony in this instance is staggering. How can TRAs not make the very small mental leap to understanding how women feel when told they are no different from trans women.

I think they think it should be played by a transman. However, surely it can be played by a transman or a man as they are one and the same thing, no?

So they want a Transwoman to play a Transman?

I'm as confused as I'm sure they are. Do they even know what they want?

I assume the kick off is because they want a trans women to play the part, but how would that work having a biological male pretend he is a women wanting to be a man?

But wouldn't that be triggering too? Having to pretend to want to be a man, when you really want the opposite (I think, I'm confused too now)

*actual

But if they got an antual trans man to play the part then he would, for some of the film, have to be a woman which would surely be triggering as the whole reason they are trans is because they hated being a woman.

I assume the kick off is because they want a trans women to play the part, but how would that work having a biological male pretend he is a women wanting to be a man?

Dwayne "the Rock" Johnston plays a man with a prosthetic leg in his latest film. The bastards should've hired a disabled actor.

They seem to forget that films need big stars to make bloody money.

Ah bless...

My favorite part of the article, "one author using more incorrect (and ignorant) language describing Gill as “sexually ambivalent.” (Note: Gender identity is separate from sexuality.)" All bolds are mine.

Pp asked if tras are a bit dim...

I think my head just exploded

No that was just your lady brain. 😁

I think my head just exploded.

Rapid Onset, perhaps?

So trans women are women, but only trans women can play trans women? If trans women are exactly the same as natal women, then why can't natal women play them?

No logical consistency, yet again.

Meanwhile panto season every year we have men dressing up in enormous comedy breasts and doing over the top characatures (sp) of women and everyone is HAHAHA brilliant.

Ooops, sorry, cross posted. Ignore.

Just out of interest, was there a similar furore when Eddie Redmayne donned "trans face" in the Danish Girl?

Or is the problem again, with a woman doing something?

"Did anyone complain when Eddie Redmayne played a trans woman in The Danish Girl?"

Yes - an awful lot.

But then the actor in orange is the new black who is trans (not seen it and don't know much about it) played frank n furter in rocky horror show remake (why why why????????? so many awful remakes of perfect things at the moment) and no-one seemed to mind even though frank was(is) a man - a transvesite - and 100% a male character. So how can frank be played by a woman? (trans women are women). Makes no sense at all.