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Penny Mordaunt MP: Trans women are women, that is the starting point for this consultation.

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Macareaux · 03/07/2018 07:20

This is even worse coming from a woman.

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EmpressOfSpartacus · 03/07/2018 08:01

"Trans women are women... and we listen to women's groups."

Right....

misscockerspaniel · 03/07/2018 07:59

Timely reminder of the need to state the obvious when completing the consultation. Don't assume that the officials dealing with your response think that "woman" means adult human female. You must define what you mean by woman etc. What do you mean by transwoman, who is included/excluded in the definition. It will be pointless if they eg say men can't have access to women's loos if their definition of women includes those born male. Remember that brainwashers have been spreading their propaganda behind the scenes for years.

TimeLady · 03/07/2018 07:58

Interview here:

www.pinknews.co.uk/2018/07/03/penny-mordaunt-interview-gender-recognition-act/

"Q. There’s been a substantial amount of controversy, in terms of the backlash from some feminist groups. What does the government make of some of the concerns that have been raised?

A. We’re listening to everyone. The starting point for this is that trans people need to be supported and we need to ensure the processes that are there when they’re going through a transition are there to support them and not add to their stresses.

Trans women are women, that is the starting point for this consultation.

Of course we listen to all groups, and women’s groups in particular."

AncientLights · 03/07/2018 07:35

My starting point for this consultation is that transwomen are not women. It'll be very interesting to see how this thing is structured.

Trans getting cosmetic surgery on the NHS would sit uncomfortably with most after the announcement the other day of the procedures they can no longer carry out. So what health issues do they have that aren't linked with the stubborn refusal of some to recognise their biological sex is still peskily present?

ballsballsballs · 03/07/2018 07:34

I could cry.

Macareaux · 03/07/2018 07:31

£4m is piss all in the context of a country with 65m inhabitants.

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CosmicCanary · 03/07/2018 07:26

Shes on the BBC now talking about how £4 million is being but in to supporting LGBTQ with employement rights, education and access to health care.
It made me wonder what healthcare do the LGB groups not have access to already?

The critic in me does wonder if this was more for the T in the LGBT to be able to access cosmetic surgery on the NHS.

Happy to be corrected.

Baroquehavoc · 03/07/2018 07:25

Bet it never crossed her mind to say "Transmen are men.

Says it all, doesn't it.

This is all about mens rights to abolish women's safety.

Macareaux · 03/07/2018 07:22

Bet it never crossed her mind to say "Transmen are men.

Because that would make it about women and clearly women are going to be the afterthought in this reform.

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