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https://www.telegraph.co.uk/education/2018/06/30/universities-warned-creeping-segregation-sheffield-launches/

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Floorplan · 01/07/2018 02:23

Hope all bedrooms are en suite.

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argumentativefeminist · 01/07/2018 12:32

You lot are obsessed with policing everything. Anyone who's homophobic isn't going to sign up to live in these flats so I can't see why it would need to be "proven" that you are LGBT. I would have loved this in my first year as I had to share a flat with homophobic people. For my third year, I'm living in a women's only flat in a private student halls. There may well be transwomen there, and I dont care. Sometimes I wonder whether the tone of these discussions would change if there were more millenials on Mumsnet.

PinkCherryBlossomTree · 01/07/2018 12:25

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OldCrone · 01/07/2018 12:03

They seem a bit confused about who will be allowed to live in this accommodation. It says it is for gay and transgender students only, but also says:

He said Sheffield’s plan will go even further by enacting an explicit ban on heterosexual students, and will further fuel student segregation.

If no heterosexual students are allowed, how do you classify transgender students to make sure they are eligible? For example, would a transman who has had no medical treatment, and is attracted to women be allowed? This person is biologically female, so would their relationships with women be viewed as lesbian relationships or heterosexual?

What about a transwoman who has had no medical treatment, and is attracted to women? Would this person be welcomed as a lesbian, or would their relationships with women be seen as heterosexual?

Pratchet · 01/07/2018 07:12

I doubt anything's actually changed in the way people are treated. It mentions microagressions, comments and 'will face bullying'. However, I like a woman only space so if there is a demand for this from LGBT students, why not give it a try.

Iceweasel · 01/07/2018 07:08

How will they be sure it is LGBT+ only and keep predatory heterosexual males out and away from young lesbians and trans men?

Pratchet · 01/07/2018 07:08

There's no way I'd sign up for those as a lesbian. Otherwise, I think it's a nice third space.

seafret · 01/07/2018 06:51

Sheffield Uni are reported as saying "By no means is this accommodation compulsory, nor do we wish to encourage segregation, but we feel it is extremely important that our students have the choice of living in LGBT+ only accommodation if they so desire.”

And if women want the choice of women only dorms do they have this choice or do they have to allow transwomen in? Or are some people's choices more valid than others.

What have they been smoking :(

sashh · 01/07/2018 06:15

I understand having some accommodation reserved for certain groups but if the problem is bullying on campus then the bullying needs to be addressed.

I know Leeds uni has some catered halls that are Kosher, I'm not sure you HAVE to be Jewish to be in those halls but you won't be served bacon for breakfast.

Iceweasel · 01/07/2018 05:57

Will it be a safe space for lesbian students? I think it's a dangerous move.

NotTerfNorCis · 01/07/2018 05:06

This seems to be where identity politics is taking us.

Today it's 'safe spaces'. Tomorrow it'll be a way of facilitating discrimination and prejudice.

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