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Trans-Time? An allegory for this debate

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heresyandwitchcraft · 30/06/2018 12:40

Hi Mumsnet. I wrote something, as "comic relief," after seeing a comparison between time and gender. And I thought, huh, they're probably not that different after all. It got a little long, but wanted to share it with you.

Trans-time is time?

What the “trans-time debate” seemed like it could be back then…

Sally: Good afternoon Greg!

Greg: Hi Sally! Listen, I have something I need to tell you. It’s actually my evening. For medical reasons, my day-time will officially be your night-time from now on… I am trans-time. My doctor has diagnosed me with time-dysphoria. For a long while, I have felt deeply uncomfortable with living in this time zone. The only way for me to live a happy life is if I adopt the time zone of a country across the globe.

Sally: Wait… what?

Greg: Yes, being trans-time with time-dysphoria means that I must change my current diurnal rhythm to match my internal identity. I experience time differently. The best way to alleviate my symptoms is by transitioning from day to night. I realize it’s hard to understand, but if you wouldn’t mind using neutral terms like “hello,” or considering saying “good evening” to me when it’s your daytime, I would greatly appreciate it.

Sally: Umm… Just to be clear, what time do you think it is right now?

Greg: Well, intellectually I know that it’s actually 12 noon! The sun is exceptionally hot and bright today! But internally… I feel it is midnight. It’s a mismatch that affects me greatly. For some reason my diurnal rhythm is much more closely suited to a time zone across the globe. I feel incredibly tired right now yet will be wide-awake in 12 hours. Despite trying everything I cannot seem to fix this. So I am going to switch my lifestyle to follow this clock inside myself. I’m looking to gain new friends over the internet in countries across the world, look at trans-time specific needs, and still try and blend in with society the best I can. I know I’ll need to make adjustments like vitamin D supplements, probably look into sunlight alternatives. I am even considering donating to charity the some of the pay rise I’ll get for only working the traditional “antisocial hours”… because… well, I’ll see myself as working normal hours.

Sally: I don’t really understand, but if this is something you’ve worked out with your doctor, and is the only thing that will make you happy, then you do you. I’ll try my best to be polite, to use neutral greetings. I’ll try not to deliberately hurt you, but I don’t think I will be able to fully understand the concept of your night being my day, or go along with it completely... Because I just… I can’t say that noon the same as midnight. Sorry about that. Besides, I’ll really miss having you around at lunch.

Greg: That’s okay, Sally… I get it. I appreciate you listening to me with an open mind. I’m happy we could find at least some middle ground. Hopefully we can keep talking and understand each other’s perspectives better.

Sally: Thanks Greg. Can we still go for a cup of tea every once in a while? Perhaps in my mornings… which I guess are your… evenings?

Greg: Of course. Tea is completely independent of time zones.

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DuchessOMalley · 01/07/2018 14:26

This is genius! Can anyone see any flaws in this? It's the perfect analogy and I can't imagine anyone not being peaked after reading it. Well done OP!

happydappy2 · 01/07/2018 14:14

Very clever-like it a lot

heresyandwitchcraft · 01/07/2018 14:01

They're just too annal that's their problem.
You've all had me cackling for this unspecified period of time.
Thank you.
Grin

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GeraldineFangedVagine · 01/07/2018 13:56

This is amazing.

womanformallyknownaswoman · 01/07/2018 13:47

Time's up for those who believe in sex change. They're just too annal that's their problem.

And just to reiterate if you want a meeting with them it's got to be on their time - at 120 past day.

aaagghhhhh -

A brilliant analogy - very funny. It's a little bittersweet for me personally as I'm in the wrong time zone and no one will beam me up - but I've don't have the inflated entitlement to insist on my right for an aircraft to be chartered all for me, at other's expense, plus use social media to stir up a mob to accuse others of ignoring my timerights

Bloodmagic · 01/07/2018 13:46

Honestly even original greg seems like a bit of a tool ;)

WhereDoWeBeginToCovetClarice · 01/07/2018 10:26

Good evening.

Something should be done about TV scheduling - it just doesn't suit relaxing before bed.

Ereshkigal · 01/07/2018 10:19
Grin
TokenBritPoshOfCourse · 30/06/2018 23:15

I’m really looking forward to getting up tomorrow at 7am (midday in cistime). I will be all virtuous about being up early on a Sunday and will report my family (especially the dog) for literal violence if they disturb me before then.

ApplesinmyPocket · 30/06/2018 22:26

heresyandwitchcraft that's really brilliant. Just so .. spot-on!

homefromthehills · 30/06/2018 22:25

Mummy, they are all off to bed pretending they have insomnia because it is really 10.30 am.

Mummyoflittledragon · 30/06/2018 22:21

Excellent thread. I just wish more mumsnetters had seen it ! And see what any pro extreme trans people think

homefromthehills · 30/06/2018 22:20

As one of the first kind of trans timers I enjoyed that immensely.

Very clever and from my perspective pretty spot on.

But its now time for breakfast, so good morning.

Ereshkigal · 30/06/2018 21:39

Good morning? Catch up, it's 20 past 1 in the afternoon bigots. You're on the wrong side of history!

ImMissHannigan · 30/06/2018 21:16

Absolutely spot on! Good morning to you all

TokenBritPoshOfCourse · 30/06/2018 21:11

Love it! Well done.

QuizteamBleakley · 30/06/2018 21:04

Absolutely superb, bravo!

sanluca · 30/06/2018 20:52

Very well done, gold star! Smile

MipMipMip · 30/06/2018 20:38

Excellent.

LastTrainEast · 30/06/2018 20:36

Brilliant!

Pratchet · 30/06/2018 20:21

Brilliant perfect analogy

Bingpot · 30/06/2018 18:32

This is absolutely brilliant, thanks for sharing OP!

birdbandit · 30/06/2018 18:20

Good work!

CompeteHalfAMile · 30/06/2018 18:17

Good moaning Brew

heresyandwitchcraft · 30/06/2018 18:14

Thanks for the lovely feedback. I wrote it specifically only for Mumsnet as the time thing was brought up on a previous thread here, and the more I thought about it, the more the parallels were clear. So it got too long!
You are all doing fabulous work in this debate!
Morning Gin all around, and hope you enjoyed the sun tonight! Wink

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