Five journalist shot dead

Here is a link about the 5 murdered journalists.

mobile.nytimes.com/2018/06/29/us/victims-capital-gazette-shooting.html?action=click&module=Intentional&pgtype=Article

No I do not think the OP is showing them much respect given that she found the time to search for and post that screen print but couldn't be bothered to find out anything about the individual journalists.

AAK - apparently his race is listed as "white, non-Hispanic", which appears to directly contradict another report I read

Yeah, the international brotherhood of the aggrieved men with a grudge against women.

Rerailing though, the common element here is a history of violence and obsessive stalking-type behavior towards women. When attempts at control are thwarted these men act out in increasingly dangerous ways.

FWIW, AngryAttackKittens, I don't think 'white' is all that important. I read some postings from Asian incel male anime fans (in Asia, not the West) and they seem to be at least as bad as the white ones, especially when misogyny is socially acceptable in most parts of the world.

Japan is itself the home of legalised paedophilia and the SOURCE of all of this culture, and it's popular with socially marginal tech-obsessed males all over the world.

there was an article citing research that terrorists often had a previous history of DV wasn't there?

Yep. Hopefully someone, probably Rowan who's our resident encyclopedia, will have the link to hand.

violent men probably have quite a lot in common with each other whatever their political ideology or motive is. there was an article citing research that terrorists often had a previous history of DV wasn't there? (sorry i am rubbish at retaining the necessary info to find links).

it doesn't even have to be an organised attack on women's rights (although the incel movement is very blatantly exactly this). i would say that there is always a danger to women when men are this violent.

i think it's really important to look at the people and the patterns behind all crimes like this. to look at their upbringing and their relationships. we need this knowledge in order to try and solve the huge global problem that is male violence.

(And yes, in this case I know that the murderer is mixed race, before that turns into another angry derail.)

The combination of unstable white men and manga/anime is rarely a positive one.

A Judge stepped down yesterday, so he has control of the courts and the press.

"Actually it's simply about culture. "

Well this is simply about a mass murder. A wider narrative is, as I said, something that people construct.

There is a connected issue here about gun ownership, and those who support it. If you want a society where the 2nd amendment is sacred, this sort of slaughter is a consequence. If you allow guns, alongside the fetishisation of ownership as fundamental to your freedom, coupled with no universal healthcare, then you have to lie in your own cartridge-strewn bed, I’m afraid.

Case in point; Canada has similar levels of gun ownership, but also a health service. The contrast on either side of the border could not be more stark.

berserk.wikia.com/wiki/Brand_of_Sacrifice

"You have now been marked with the Brand of Sacrifice. The lives of those who bear the Brand, from the last drop of blood, to the last moment of your agonizing death, will feed life to the new Child of Darkness"

"The Brand of Sacrifice (生贄の焼印 Ikenie no Yakīn?) marks those for a sacrificial ceremony in which an apostle or God Hand is created. The sacrificed, usually someone close and dear to the summoner, is then ritualistically murdered, with the deceased's life force used to complete the summoner's transition into either an apostle or a member of the God Hand."

He seems to have been influenced by this manga.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Berserk_(manga)

Specifically he placed this 'brand' on the judge & journalists pictures.

The OP is not showing respect for the dead? Don't you think that's a bit of shit come-back?

I'm not seeing much sympathy for the 5 murdered journalists- certainly not in the opening post. The OP takes the trouble to screen shot something from the harrasment victim but says nothing about the journalists- not even the newsworthy fact that one of them is the brother of Carl Hiasen.

The story and their names and faces is all over the internet but the OP can't be bothered linking to that or naming them.

The newspaper printed the truth about his harrassment of a woman.

And so he had to attack them for telling the truth. Because that is an awful crime in his eyes.

The truth is under attack all around right now.

He wasn't ONLY obsessed with the journalist for reporting his assholery, but also the judge who threw out his case against them, his last tweet being to his fake @judgemoylanfrnd saying 'fuck you' (apropos nothing in particular afaict, as he has now retried).

The story shouts incel. Incel terror really frightens me. I don't stand at the edge of tube platforms any more. I know it sounds ridiculous but the threats to women coming from all sides are matched by a callousness from mass opinion 'well you wanted equality you should have been careful what you wished for' and it's awful. It ranges all the way down to men not standing for heavily pregnant women. 'Women aren't special'. Sorry to trivialise but it's a whole range of behaviours.

There is a battle going on as usual to blame various usual suspects, i.e. Trump, Milo Yiannopoulos, white people, Hispniac people, and so on.

Ramos is, for what it is worth mixed race being mixed non-white Hispanic & white.

heavy.com/news/2018/06/jarrod-ramos-family-parents/

People have seized upon this Tweet as a tenuous link to supporting Trump.

twitter.com/EricHartleyFrnd/status/644292223547404288

The facts are here about what happened:

www.mdcourts.gov/sites/default/files/import/appellate/unreportedopinions/2015/2281s13.pdf

The shooter in around 2010 contacted some forgotten schoolmate on FB. She was friendly to him (online - they never met offline), he started sending threatening emails & other electronic communications, including trying to get her fired, she got a restraining order, he got a suspended jail sentence, and that at least was the end of THAT.

HOWEVER, this slightly random case of threatening internet communications was written up in the local newspaper, courtesy of writer Eric Thomas Hartley.

Ramos got pissed off & took the paper to court, where the case was thrown out on the basis that every word was true, and he'd failed to show otherwise.

He then pursued a seven year vendetta against the newspaper & its journalists culminating in this mass-murder (though Hartley had long since moved to another state & newspaper, so the victims are essentially random).

Anyway, one can construct whatever narrative suits.

I could maybe understand Lass' point if he was "just" a violent male (though again, there is the feminist analysis of why it's usually a male to be had there), but when it's someone who has specifically held a grudge against the paper for reporting his dodgy behaviour around women, it is surely much less of a leap...?