Urgent: banning gender identity conversion

by every reputable professional body in the field?

Reputable professional bodies in various fields have recommended ethically questionable treatments before, and I'm sure they will again, and I feel they are doing that right now with trans children.

I think it's indefensible to suggest that life-altering medical treatment of children and young people should be the default course myself.

How much more transphobic is it possible to get than opposing legislation that might outlaw a discredited "treatment" that has been condemned as "unethical" by every reputable professional body in the field? You are defending the indefensible.
And to up the scare factor by falsely claiming that the watch and wait policy will also be banned ... this thread really is the pits.

Wanting to stop a ban for on conversion therapy extending to gender identity is a new low

For adults, who have mature brains, who have had therapy to be sure that there's no remedy that could make them happy to live with the body they have, I'm sad that they feel they have to undergo surgery (just as I am for anyone who's so distressed by their appearance they feel they need to get bits shaved down, chopped off, repositioned, implanted or expanded).

For children, I just can't support it. I can't support anyone damaging a child's health rather than trying to help them come to love themselves as they are.

It's not a low, it's actually thinking about it, and balancing that if (for example) someone is suicidal, then the last thing to do is to start offering them life-altering medication and surgery. Much better to deal with the mental health issues leading to the suicidal thoughts first, and then see if they still need to change their healthy body.

This could be very important. We need to keep a beady eye. Or several.

We know that these people like to say "look there's Elvis!" while they sneak in measures to destroy women's rights in the other direction.

There are going to be a few of these, and the consultation into the GRA is likely to be a smokescreen. They'll be sneaking stuff in during the summer break being the sly, untrustworthy undemocratic authoritarians that they are.

This is terrifying for victims of CSA, autistic kids, lesbian and gay young people

I'm taking a perfectly legal watch and wait approach to you being a horseshoe crab Prawn

Wanting to stop a ban for on conversion therapy extending to gender identity is a new low.

This could be very important. We need to keep a beady eye. Or several. I am identifying as a horseshoe crab today.

Don't be silly, "watch and wait" is precisely that; watch and wait. It isn't conversion therapy by anyone's definition.

I heard about this a while ago on the radio in fact, and whilst I'm sure they did say the definition was currently vague, they definitely made reference to "a course of treatment or practice specifically designed to change the patient's state of thinking" or some such.

So don't worry, doing not very much will still be doing not very much, just like it always was.

Sarah Champion MP is quoted there adding gender identity to sexual orientation. She who helped blow apart on of the paedophile gangs. Such a disappointment she is.

Saw this earlier.

No mention of banning 'watch and wait' for kids with gender identity disphorphia? Gender identity was mentioned once in a quote from a Labour mp from what I saw.

When they define homosexuality conversion cures half the transgender advocates who are promoting transitioning away the gays and lesbians will lose their financial grants from the government.