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#ManFriday group closing

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YesItsADebate · 28/06/2018 13:30

It gives me great sadness to write this post but we have been attacked this week, on our Facebook organising group by someone who claims to be a feminist and an ally to our cause. They chose to leak some screenshots to a Twitter troll (outing our members) and make a ridiculous allegation against us and Dr Nic in a thread on here and has slipped through our clean-up of our online group.

They are now threatening police action against high profile members of our group unless we prostrate ourselves to her bullying. @Sweary has a great response to that: the ever eloquent G F* Y! (starred to prevent deletion! ahem).

As we don't know who they are and don't know how to stop them the only option we have is to burn the group. This loses us so many allies, who have supported our actions wholeheartedly since that first day meeting wiht my local swimming pool and it breaks my heart. As we met on MN FWR I hope that most of you are still here and see this. We really didn't want to lose you - and you were as important as those of us out there getting on with the activism.

That this has happened in the run up to the consultation being launched, a time when we really should have our attentions and activities focussed elsewhere is ridiculous. This person has chosen to pursue a personal vendetta at a time when we should be pulling together and building on the success #ManFriday has had so far.

#ManFriday will keep fighting for the rights, safety, privacy and dignity of women and girls. We aren't going away but for the security of our members, we have to use alternative platforms to the Facebook group for organising our activism. Our website, Twitter feed etc. will still be up and running (come & get a t-shirt Wink)

Please keep up with the #randomactsofmanliness and keep taking up space on Fridays. Or any day come to that.

Amy, Sweary and the #ManFriday admin team x (unMumsnetty but )

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iamawoman · 28/06/2018 17:36

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PissedOffWoman · 28/06/2018 17:32

I am so sorry this has happened to you. Flowers

Sadly it is unsurprising as the rabid determination of these transactivists knows no bounds. They will continue to try to harrass, threaten and abuse us until we capitulate and change our thinking to their biology denying, women hating, child endangering, self serving agenda. Which we will never do.

To deny that self id will open the gates to non trans identifying men utilising the fear and inability of women and girls to complain about someone being where they should not be, to gain access to safe spaces to abuse is terrifying. When abusive men have joined the priesthood, charities, schools etc to do exactly this for years, pretending to have a GRC is a piece of cake to them. They will know no-one will dare question why they are there because the law will not allow it. Accessing rape counselling centres, womens shelters, upskirting, filming under toilet doors, putting cameras in sanitary bins, cameras hidden in toilet roll holders etc, etc, etc is happening and laws are being changed to make this illegal (upskirting) exactly because of this.

We must not, will not and cannot stop talking and campaigning to keep our safe spaces safe as we, our daughters and granddaughters need us to.

We may have to underground, regroup locally and keep the campaign going in the way the suffragette movement did. Letter writing, marching, organising all done through word of mouth, snail mail and telephoning. The old fashioned way.

We can do this. We must do this. We will do this.

SisyphusWasGenderCritical · 28/06/2018 17:30

That person needs fucking help. GFY indeed. You know who you are and I have no doubt you are reading this. You are certainly no ally to women

Whirliegigspiders · 28/06/2018 17:20

Ffs

MunchausensLovelyHorse · 28/06/2018 17:10

That explains some absenses. Thanks for explaining. #ManFriday I predict will get stronger.

Sillydoggy · 28/06/2018 17:02

Sorry to hear this but I just know you won’t let them win. Every weekend my 11 year old daughter says ‘what have the ManFriday women done this week? ‘ It’s lead to some good conversations.

SophoclesTheFox · 28/06/2018 17:02

Urgh, how awful. sorry, man friday chaps.

I wore my t-shirt with pride on holiday in france this week. Manly pride.

Wishing you all strength and gin as necessary.

Sillydoggy · 28/06/2018 17:02

Sorry to hear this but I just know you won’t let them win. Every weekend my 11 year old daughter says ‘what have the ManFriday women done this week? ‘ It’s lead to some good conversations.

AsAProfessionalFekko · 28/06/2018 16:57

I think I'd get clubbed if I wore a MF t-shirt to work.

There's an awfully lot of shiny faced bright young things around (students and artsy folks) who are just wee babies really.

Bespin · 28/06/2018 16:54

Sorry to hear that this has happened to your group as while I don't support your aims in no way do I support anyone placing people's privacy in danger or that of there families I hope there are things that can be done about it and the person is held responsible

BeyondFemaleElitist · 28/06/2018 16:54

Bowl, if you're a bit spherical for a t shirt, they also have magnets and badges? :)

SophoclesTheFox · 28/06/2018 16:53

Urgh, how awful. sorry, man friday chaps.

I wore my t-shirt with pride on holiday in france this week. Manly pride.

Wishing you all strength and gin as necessary.

sexnotgender · 28/06/2018 16:47

Ordered my man Friday t shirt. Think it’ll look particularly fetching on my pregnant man stomach.

PurpleCrowbar · 28/06/2018 16:45

I'm sure it's been said - but first they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win.

You're being targeted because you are having a massive impact 😍.

Did wonder where you'd gone on FB...

Abouttoblow · 28/06/2018 16:40

Jesus Christ!

You know you're doing something right when they have to stoop to these tactics!!!

So, as Sweary said, whoever did this G F* Y**!!!!!

Women will not be silenced. We will still be here every day, including Manfridays

RaininSummer · 28/06/2018 16:36

This is very pissy offy. Will wear my tshirt more often now. As Sweary says women will not give up this fight. The ManFriday women really made the issues visible. I hope we can all find each other in other places.

SleepIsForTheWeek · 28/06/2018 16:36

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2rebecca · 28/06/2018 16:32

Sorry and angry to hear that. I can't see any of the posts in my Facebook groups today just posts in my feed. I had thought it was just a work intranet thing or facebook glitch as other folk have had it before but maybe it's related to some of the groups I'm in.
Do get pissed off with this. I don't go round interfering in trans forums and groups etc. There are a lot of people who hate democracy and dissent.

Pythagonal · 28/06/2018 16:27

Just ordered my T shirt 😁

Bowlofbabelfish · 28/06/2018 16:26

Oh how bloody annoying.

But you know, if you were irrelevant they wouldn’t have done it. They did it because you are bringing this to public attention.

Keep up the good work! And stay safe.

Alas a t shirt is out for me at the moment (being rather speherical and gravid) but should you ever decide to add mugs to your merch I am there. ;)

Amalfimamma · 28/06/2018 16:25

Ah Jesus I'm sorry that's happened. Please keep safe ladies and report all threats to the cops.

TellsEveryoneRealFacts · 28/06/2018 16:22

sorry sparticus, im a bit a lurker/occasional gc poster but seem to have missed a lot of what is referred to in this thread over the last week or so and was trying to work out what was going on I meant (generally) what was said/accused and what group it has been hinted on this thread may be unsafe

Did you join a group mentioned in here? If so, you might want to leave.

SwearyG · 28/06/2018 16:19

Links are on this page and there’s another one linked on the Cessation of Hostilities thread.

UpstartCrow · 28/06/2018 16:16

Corny meme time.

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FairfaxAikman · 28/06/2018 16:16

Aargh how frustrating for you all!

I went to buy a t shirt in solidarity but they don't seem to be available. Can anyone point me to where I can get one please?