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I cannot believe that Mumsnet - a parenting site!! - agrees with the following:

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badgirlswatchagonnado · 27/06/2018 10:47

  1. Giving children drugs off-label that have ZERO long-term safety studies
  1. Advocating surgery below the age of consent
  1. Teaching children LIES (changing sex is physically impossible, and thus a lie)
  1. The enforcement of redactive, prescriptive gender stereotypes
  1. Encouraging children to ignore parents to get advice from strangers on the internet (and even to leave their parents and live with above internet strangers)

I made a comment last week that was short, but encompassed all the above behaviours and labelled it as abusive.

Because surely it is abusive to treat a child in such a way.

But Mumsnet deleted it, and stated it went against their guidelines, which is the same as agreeing with the above.

Mumsnet isn't interested in child protection.

Mumsnet is happy to see children being injured by dangerous drugs.

Mumsnet is happy to have other posters advocate surgery, drugs, and lies while people like me - who are against these things - get our comments deleted and sanitised.

Just thought people would like to know.

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Ineedacupofteadesperately · 27/06/2018 11:56

Yes, I bet you a lot of parents who've gone along with it all have done so through fear because they've been threatened that if they don't their child will attempt suicide.

This is emotional abuse.

Pratchet · 27/06/2018 11:43

In general, it's not parents pushing this. It's transactivists at every level.

Lifesavingorange · 27/06/2018 11:41

I was deleted for saying something along the lines of cutting bits off a child is abusive. Can’t repeat what I said as I’ve had two strikes and if I’m deleted again I’ll be banned.

Isn’t free speech great!?

GenderApostate · 27/06/2018 11:34

This reply has been deleted

Message deleted by MNHQ. Here's a link to our Talk Guidelines.

Pratchet · 27/06/2018 11:21

Some of it e.g. Is online grooming

Pratchet · 27/06/2018 11:19

On the sports day thread, comments directed at the mother were deleted and they had to be. General comments like the above, weren't. I think these behaviours are abusive but I think much more often they are NOT parental behaviours.

badgirlswatchagonnado · 27/06/2018 11:17

I didn't do that, SuperDandy.

And all MNHQ said was that my comment went against their guidelines.

Would be great to know exactly HOW but they aren't telling.

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Pratchet · 27/06/2018 11:17

I don't agree that it means MN agrees with these things and I disagree (strongly!) that mumsnet doesn't believe in child protection and wants to see children injured by dangerous drugs Hmm But I will join you #spartacus

These are abusive:
Giving children drugs off-label that have no long-term safety studies
Advocating surgery below the age of consent
Teaching children that changing sex is possible
Enforcing prescriptive gender stereotypes
Encouraging children to ignore parents to get advice from strangers on the internet (and even to leave their parents and live with above internet strangers)

SuperDandy · 27/06/2018 11:16

MNHQ don't allow posts that conflate parenting a trans child with child abuse. It sounds like that's what your post was aiming for, hence the deletion.

I don't imagine that restating your thoughts in more detail whilst slinging mud at MNHQ is going to help you get a hearing if you would like your post reinstated.

badgirlswatchagonnado · 27/06/2018 11:15

BitterAndOnlySlightlyTwisted I think it's absolutely fair to make that inference, because what else do I have to go on? They know about all this information, because it's discussed here all the time!

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LastGirlOnTheLeft · 27/06/2018 11:13

Women are being silenced for standing up for children against this utter madness and as a result our children are being silenced as well and not able to be protected and defended....on a PARENTING site!

stillathing · 27/06/2018 11:09

yes it is devastating.

in the words of owen jones we may well be "on the wrong side of history". history that traditionally serves to document from the perspective the half of the population that is and has always been in power.

our language is policed, twisted, appropriated and stripped of meaning but we can't un-know what we know. i hope a woman more organised than me is documenting all this for herstory. i hope one day women will be able to look back this and learn from what happened with mumsnet. were they scared of something or was the whole site just a cold and hollow exercise in marketing?

BitterAndOnlySlightlyTwisted · 27/06/2018 11:06

I don't think MN supports any of those positions, and I don't think it's fair to infer that they do because your post was erased. But they do seem to be tying themselves in knots suppressing what they have been told is "hate-speech" i.e. calling a spade a spade

Wanderabout · 27/06/2018 11:04

Must have been a mistake or overzealous mod. Unless you were referring to a named individual or said something different to the above, I don't see how that breaches the guidelines.

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