Diva magazine is trans inclusive

It’s not about policing who is a lesbian or not.

It’s about knowing that words have meanings, and knowing what those meanings are.

So if someone with blonde hair says they have black hair, and I say, no you don’t have black hair, you have blonde hair, I am not policing who has black hair. I know what black is and I know what blonde is and I can see that this person’s hair is not black.

Lesbians are attracted to other adult human females. Trans women do not fall into that category. It is a matter of understanding words and definitions and not thinking we somehow have to alter those definitions because a tiny number of people are unhappy with them.

Continuing with Grindr as an example - there was new guidance published towards the end of last year, about "engaging respectfully". This included advice on not making presumptions about people's genitals and not asking them if they have had any surgical procedures.

This runs counter to the stated desires of many gay men and lesbian women, who are clear that they are sexually attracted to penises and vaginas. It also runs counter to current ideology which says that being homosexual and only attracted to one set of sex organs is discriminatory.

Therefore a hookup site which does not allow its users to establish the physical characteristics of who they are talking to before taking their clothes off, is clearly going to present a problem.

It's pretty clear what's going on here. People come onto the thread and make outrageously false or provocative statements designed to elicit a response that will get the responder banned.

All to often the line pushed on Mumsnet is that being feminist means being gender critical and refusing to see trans women as women

Do you believe humans can change sex?

Wow the number of people on here who wish to police who is and is not a lesbian is amazing so telling other woman what they are and are not even when they clearly identify as something is in no way ironic. Having meet a number of woman other the years who identify as lesbians and who are fine with dating trans woman. What give you the right to tell them they are not infact lesbians but are now bi because you say they are.

Personally, I prefer After Ellen.

There are multiple threads on Reddit and other open fora where gay men are complaining about Grindr no longer being focused on gay men and that - to put it bluntly - they are looking for sex with a penis, not a vagina.

I wonder if there is any correlation between the decline of print media and refreshing an ideological stance in order to attract a new and burgeoning audience?

Women can also be misogynists

You would know.

Half right...

A lesbian is a female homosexual. A bisexual woman in a relationship with another woman isn't a lesbian.

1) Is lesbian a verb or a noun?

2) How does the verb/noun intersect (if at all) with men?

Sample question for my BTEC in LGBT studies...

In real life everyone knows what a lesbian actually is. And is not.

Trying to appropriate and colonise female homosexuality is not cool or clever, despite attempts by glossy magazines to jump on the next big bucks bandwagon.

You can shout all you like on here and have the biggest hissy fit you want, but that still won't make any of this nonsense true.

I look forward to a similar statement from Attitude Magazine (the mag for gay men). I hope they will also give a column to a trans man and have trans male models. In fact, why not have a whole issue dedicated to trans men?

To follow on from my previous thought -

You cannot claim to know what oppression is like when you have the option to step out of it at any time by virtue of your privilege - because that's not oppression; that's choice.

Or to put it more pithily a la St Jarvis of Cocker:

Rent a flat above a shop,
Cut your hair and get a job.
Smoke some fags and play some pool,
Pretend you never went to school.
But still you'll never get it right,
'Cause when you're laid in bed at night,
Watching roaches climb the wall,
If you called your Dad he could stop it all.

If a penis is or ever was a part of one partner the relationship is not a lesbian one. There is no such thing as a lesbian with a penis. It's that simple.

The party which is part of the structure of oppression cannot simultaneously be a member of the resistance against it.

They can be sympathetic to the causes that the resistance champions, and they can also be an ally in helping a resistance movement achieve its aims and goals. However one thing they cannot do is claim membership of the resistance because unless they have been on the receiving end of the oppression, they will never understand or appreciate what it is truly like - because they are coming from a position of privilege that the resistance members are denied.

Misogyny is not mutually exclusive to feminist theory.

Can we just use some honesty here and start substituting the word ‘inclusive’ for ‘about men’? Because that is EXACTLY what this is about even though a fair few are too dim/desperate for virtue cookies to see it.

A friend of mine often used to say "I'm not a lesbian, but my wife is".

She was 100% correct. She's now in a relationship with a man btw - her ex married another woman.