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Group of ‘women’ attack a man

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sundaynamechange1 · 26/06/2018 12:24

Shared on LBC yeasterday
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Have a good look at see what you think

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Jorah · 26/06/2018 15:19

Transwomen that are not sex workers are not more at risk from violence than woman and girls

BesmirchingMotherhood · 26/06/2018 15:10

No, not you Finn - I’m talking about the posters who have been very very active of late but who are strangely absent from this thread.

And I think I must have x posted with you anyway, because calling the Sun is brilliant work.

OrdinaryGirl · 26/06/2018 15:08

I hadn't thought about how the crime figures will be skewed by self-identification. 😳
This feels so unbelievably unjust.

finnmcool · 26/06/2018 15:06

@BesmirchingMotherhood If you are referring to me, I'm a longtime lurker. You can check my posting history.
I went to the Women's Place London meeting 5 minute walk from Tottenham Court Road Tube.
I am also well known with London mumsnetters as I go to all our London meet ups.
I lurk on feminist boards, because I'm not as clued up as most of you.

Picassospaintbrush · 26/06/2018 15:06

Meanwhile on another thread snappity is suggesting all self identifiers should be recorded as female crimes to be completely accurate.

BesmirchingMotherhood · 26/06/2018 14:59

Interesting how few of FWR’s, uh, newer posters are contributing to this thread.

nauticant · 26/06/2018 14:58

Maybe JO'B could have a word with his daughter first to get some sensible advice on whether violent men ought to be referred to a violent men.

finnmcool · 26/06/2018 14:58

I just rang The Sun news desk to query their reporting of this incident.
I flagged up male violence being attributed to women/ women's crime statistics.
He seemed sympathetic and understanding of what I was saying.
I included Man Friday, Mermaids/ Yorkshire police force links/ the harassment of Posie Parker.
Girl Guiding/ Swim England.
Female toilets in schools and colleges being eradicated.
Oh and Topshop changing rooms policy too.

HowWasLastnight · 26/06/2018 14:56

James O'Brien will be having the poor poppets on his show shortly to ask them what the nasty man had done to upset them.

After a ten minute pity party from each of the attackers and reminders to the listener that trans people are the most oppressed people ever.

KanyeWesticle · 26/06/2018 14:55

We have to be able to talk about it. The attackers were not female.

Picassospaintbrush · 26/06/2018 14:54

James O'Brien will be having the poor poppets on his show shortly to ask them what the nasty man had done to upset them.

Norther · 26/06/2018 14:46

Grandma! What great legs you have!

All the better to stamp you to death with, my dear!

AngryAttackKittens · 26/06/2018 14:45

One rather weedy looking young man against 4 significantly larger male people and you think that was an attack in which the group were in danger? Really?

AbsintheFriends · 26/06/2018 14:39

Norther - that might work... Nothing to object to there, surely?!

AsAProfessionalFekko · 26/06/2018 14:38

TBH if I was a witness and on the phone to the police, I would say ‘there’s a gang of blokes in dresses beating the holy crap out of a young man’.

slashlover · 26/06/2018 14:38

I NEVER said that the attack was in any way justified.

I said that the 'maybe they were misgendered, tee hee' comments were not needed.

Gileswithachainsaw · 26/06/2018 14:37

Now imagine if violence against women was comsidered a hate crime...

Statistical what would the answers be then...

Are 2 trans people killed a week then?

Datun · 26/06/2018 14:37

...and yes, exactly the kind of people you want in your intimate spaces.

Datun · 26/06/2018 14:37

Ugh, that's difficult to watch.

Pratchet · 26/06/2018 14:35

In plain sight.

enoughisenoughtoday · 26/06/2018 14:34

Don't forget the crime statistics reporting 6 'women' as having been convicted of rape last year. Funnily enough people can only identify one named woman convicted under joint enterprise - the details of the others seem to have vanished into the ether. Discussed here:

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3187255-6-women-convicted-of-rape

But remember "This never happens"

Norther · 26/06/2018 14:33

Absinthe Maybe just straight up 'woman in a dress' sans emoji could be the new euphemism!

LighthouseSouth · 26/06/2018 14:32

Norther "The thing is with it being leicester square they could just as easily be drag queens"

if they were questioned they will have been asked how they identify though, won't they? I really don't think that 999 alerts and reporters took it upon themselves to assume. If anyone here knows for sure, I'm happy to be corrected.

Gileswithachainsaw · 26/06/2018 14:32

Just look how in danger and oppressed they are Hmm