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please don't vanish - we are all crucial to the future for women and girls

111 replies

loveyouradvice · 25/06/2018 23:24

This is just a plea for that really....

I do understand how upset so many people are about Mumsnet's recent policies and the confusion and hurt they have caused - yes I have sobbed tears late into the night too

But please stay! I am sad so many are fleeing - and hope that some will maintain their sanity by not being on here every day, but coming on when feeling strong enough.

More than anything I think it is important that many of us are here now, with the government consultation launching on 7 July - speaking out on this board and AIBU and chat - so that people understand the conflict between women/girls right and trans rights as currently proposed - so that people understand what we may be about to lose before we do - and recognise that this isn't transphobia, but actually talking about the challenges and doing that much-quoted but seldom done "equality impact assessment" for everyone affected

It is fine and fair to ask about what will happen to women and girls - and to want transpeople to have strong rights

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pombear · 26/06/2018 00:03

With you in that Maryz!

Exactly that. We're viewed like sitting, polite ducks, by these visitors.

But we're ducks with fire in our arses!

It's incredibly unfair, frustrating, and we can see what they're doing.

But we're not sitting ducks.

And every time they come on to lecture, another arse-fire duck is created.

(I'm not sure my analogy with ducks and arses and fire is going well right now, but hopefully you know what I mean!)

Rufustheyawningreindeer · 26/06/2018 00:02

I agree with spontaneous

Spot on post maryz

littlbrowndog · 26/06/2018 00:02

Naw Maryz
All of us have seen the junk they trot out
And we see the stuff u lot say.
Much more powerful the stuff u lot say
So keep saying it.

👆

spontaneousgiventime · 26/06/2018 00:01

Maryzsnewaccount That was an epic post and I 100% agree.

Rufustheyawningreindeer · 26/06/2018 00:00

littlbrowndog

I was just imagining the 'u educate me' with a sort of winky leer Grin

Maryzsnewaccount · 25/06/2018 23:59

Oops, sorry, I x-posted with everyone because I am both cross and a slow typist.

As you were Grin

Rufustheyawningreindeer · 25/06/2018 23:58

Rufus is a gentle little soul who doesn't ever want to hurt anyone.

Yes, i dont want to hurt or upset people

But when i decide ive had enough im going to trot round the boards telling everyone what i really think of them...its going to be epic

Im really looking forward to it

Maryzsnewaccount · 25/06/2018 23:58

You know what I mind more than being told what to say? I mind the fact that others, new to this board, neither feminists nor women, are allowed to say what they like to the rest of us.

They are allowed to register, and within minutes start lecturing us. Telling us what to think and what to say. Telling us lies, and calling us names for questioning those lies. They are allowed to report us, to bully us, to belittle us. To make jokes about and minimise problems that individuals have (for example infertility, domestic abuse, birth injury and much more).

They are being positively encouraged to come, to register, to be nasty to everyone. And eventually when they finally cross the pretty much invisible line in the sand in the far distance that is MN's new position of goaders/abusers/MRAs/fantasists they are asked to leave, at which point they re-register.

We know they are PBPs but yet they are given the chance to start again, to continue with their abuse and their gas-lighting and their lies.

Meanwhile those of us who have been here for a long time are disregarded, dismissed and patronised.

It's the unfairness that gets to me, even more than the newspeak and the lies and the attempts to control our thoughts.

littlbrowndog · 25/06/2018 23:58

Omg nochat up line reindeer lols

BettyFloop · 25/06/2018 23:57

This is very true Rufus - and humour is powerful Grin

We shall do this.

littlbrowndog · 25/06/2018 23:56

As is that top tip above

spontaneousgiventime · 25/06/2018 23:56

Rufus is a gentle little soul who doesn't ever want to hurt anyone. She is the kind of person in a different time I would have liked to have been. TRA's have changed that and now..... shuts up before she is striked

littlbrowndog · 25/06/2018 23:56

U so is reindeer

Rufustheyawningreindeer · 25/06/2018 23:55

littlebrowndog

That sounds like a very pervy chat up line Grin

Rufustheyawningreindeer · 25/06/2018 23:55

That betty is cos i is well funny

Fact

BettyFloop · 25/06/2018 23:54

But i also dont have anything interesting to say so im not sure its much of a win
Au contraire Rufus - I really enjoy your posts.

spontaneousgiventime · 25/06/2018 23:53

So does pulling your hand away before contact is made.

littlbrowndog · 25/06/2018 23:53

Och u cool reindeer. Hang about. U educate me fir sure

littlbrowndog · 25/06/2018 23:52

Bandages on wrists can cope wit that stuff

Rufustheyawningreindeer · 25/06/2018 23:52

I wasn't planning on leaving

But i also dont have anything interesting to say so im not sure its much of a win Grin

UpstartCrow · 25/06/2018 23:50

Cross post fiiiiight!

Not really Grin

spontaneousgiventime · 25/06/2018 23:50

I wouldn't say feck 'em if I were you, I got a slapped wrist from HQ for saying that. Grin

littlbrowndog · 25/06/2018 23:49

Whoops that wasn’t at u spontaneous

littlbrowndog · 25/06/2018 23:48

Feck em

spontaneousgiventime · 25/06/2018 23:48

It has been a choice for some. The environment here is so bad they have de-reg'd. Lets not see this as being pushed, some have jumped. Some are posting elsewhere in peace and safety and some regrouping and getting themselves strong enough to come here again. No, not all who leave are pushed.