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Posters jumping before they're pushed

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spontaneousgiventime · 24/06/2018 23:22

Well MNHQ we have the start of the exodus. Posters leaving due to these new guidelines that throw women under the bus.

A poster has deleted their account today due to the upset and stress of getting a strike for saying something that is 100% true. We know it's true because TRA's posted it on Twitter themselves, yet we post it and it's kick off time at HQ

It's a fucking disgrace HQ WOMEN are your target audience yet you don't give a fucking shiny shit about us. Not a fucking shit and it stinks.

More and more women will leave and you will be left with nothing more than people who present as opposite to their birth sex sitting posting about heels, make-up, clothes and fucking knitting.

Good luck with that one.

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spontaneousgiventime · 26/06/2018 19:30

No problem, things happen.

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MunchausensLovelyHorse · 26/06/2018 19:28

Fuck Fuck and many apologies Spontaneous, - my inbox showed no messages for the last couple of days, and now three have just popped up at once.

spontaneousgiventime · 26/06/2018 19:23

MunchausensLovelyHorse I've posted 3/4 times on this thread, people who want the other places details can DM me. Sorry, I'm not chasing people who don't read threads.

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spontaneousgiventime · 26/06/2018 19:21

Oh Nat is in for a shock. I've just phoned 101 and know where I stand. All parents and grans should know too. Get informed!

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Weezol · 26/06/2018 19:15

See, that's because some men think they are the hub of the family.

I don't know a man alive that loves and respects his Gran and who would not be destroyed if Gran said 'Oh Rashid, you've really let me down' or 'Eee, Davy, I'm so disappointed'.

MunchausensLovelyHorse · 26/06/2018 19:14

Is there a reason why I'm not allowed to know of the other place?

AngryAttackKittens · 26/06/2018 18:53

If you think pissing off the mums is bad just wait to see what happens when you piss off the grans!

Actually you should post this on Gransnet.

spontaneousgiventime · 26/06/2018 18:50

Kitten, you are absolutely right.

"Short answer - Yes, I believe there is no problem with me being near your DGD in a changing room. As for the other thread we were talking in, patronising you was not my intention."

Ok, that's fine. So a person who has male genitalia is ok around my granddaughter? Oh no! This is war.

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thebewilderness · 26/06/2018 18:48

It says a lot about you as an individual that you regard blatant law-breaking as something to be praised, and the possibility of an employer taking disciplinary action against gross misconduct as a bad thing.

The 2nd rule of misogyny has not yet been codified into law in the UK, creepy d00d. Not for lack of men trying.

AngryAttackKittens · 26/06/2018 18:46

I think it was I don't agree that I shouldn't...not enough caffeine yet today though so it may be me misreading.

spontaneousgiventime · 26/06/2018 18:45

Am I? Possible - heatstroke.

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AngryAttackKittens · 26/06/2018 18:43

I think you're misreading that actually, possibly because of a clumsy double negative.

spontaneousgiventime · 26/06/2018 18:35

FINALLY WE HAVE AN ANSWER

@NatLuc has admitted as a person who presents as opposite to their birth sex and has the 'wrong plumbing' they should NOT be around girl children in an intimate setting.

I'm assuming Natluc will now, no longer use women's facilities.

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LangCleg · 26/06/2018 18:34

Lang - Totally un-sweary comment.

Me - R U UK hon?

I'm such a navvy!

R0wantrees · 26/06/2018 18:25

Times article:
'Gender‑neutral toilets: My daughter was called selfish for wanting girls‑only loos at school'

(extract)
"She told me that it was to cater for transgender or transitioning children. And rather than just make a couple of toilets unisex (I had no idea how many transgender pupils there were in her school), the school changed the lot. My daughter told me that other girls in the school felt equally outraged and I wasn’t surprised. I dislike unisex toilets even as an adult, but imagine being a teenage girl having to open a sanitary towel or tampon with a boy in the cubicle next door. No, no and no. Girls need privacy" (continues)

"Talking of boys, I asked my daughter how her male counterparts felt about the new loos. “They’re pervs,” she joked. “They’re delighted. They’ll probably drill holes in the walls.”

My son (a non-perv) agreed that mixed toilets wouldn’t bother him either, but many of the girls shared my daughter’s views, as, it turns out, do most of my female friends. One suggested that mixed toilets could even promote promiscuity among older children. Call me old-fashioned, but the notion of not having personal space when you’re going through puberty is nonsensical whatever your gender. Where should we draw the line?

The weeks passed and my daughter — along with others who were unhappy with the new loos — kept complaining, but their complaints fell on deaf ears. They were told to put up and shut up and think of others. As a parent, this felt wrong. Did only the transgender voice matter? What about my daughter’s voice? Shouldn’t both be listened to?

My daughter saw red. She started a petition for boys, girls and gender-neutrals to sign. Hundreds did. She insisted that a school council meeting be held and unisex toilets discussed. They were. And you know what? Eventually hers and other unhappy voices were listened to. And against the odds the toilets were quietly changed back to how they had been, with a smaller provision of unisex toilets kept for those who choose to use them...." continues

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/genderneutral-toilets-my-daughter-was-called-selfish-for-wanting-girlsonly-loos-at-school-cwth60b2c

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www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3289344-Schoolgirls-successfully-challenge-imposition-of-all-gender-neutral-toilets

spontaneousgiventime · 26/06/2018 18:09

@NatLuc refuses point blank to answer my question. They post merrily about how they go into women's spaces with the 'wrong plumbing'. However they refuse to say if they feel this is appropriate where a young girl may be naked.

Things that make you go hmm......

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R0wantrees · 26/06/2018 17:56

Posie Parker asks:

"Does my 11year old daughter have the right to go into a female changing room and not see an adult penis?"

speech here:
www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=23&v=CvdJ1VEdC7I

AngryAttackKittens · 26/06/2018 17:25

Lang - Totally un-sweary comment.

Me - R U UK hon?

LangCleg · 26/06/2018 17:22

Always a silver lining in every (fucking) cloud. An opportunity to (fucking) swear is always (fucking) welcome.

(MNHQ - my usual disclaimer! Please don't smite me! I'm only mucking abaht! Swearing is funny!)

AngryAttackKittens · 26/06/2018 17:18

If you had forgotten I'd be a bit concerned!

LangCleg · 26/06/2018 17:10

Oh. Oops. I didn't forget to swear.

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LangCleg · 26/06/2018 17:10

I also enjoy swearing. I can't imagine why I forgot to swear upthread there. How remiss of me.

Shitfuckpisswankcuntandbollocks.

There. The universe has righted itself. Thank heavens for that.

AngryAttackKittens · 26/06/2018 16:50

By "well" do you mean with a lot of swearing? Because I'm pretty good at that.

Waddlelikeapenguin · 26/06/2018 16:39

LangCleg
Hands up who responds well to lordly instructions?

Grin Grin Grin
Thanks for the water right down my front Lang...

LangCleg · 26/06/2018 15:40

Hands up who responds well to lordly instructions?

I'll campaign about whatever the fuck I like, whenever the fuck I like, however the fuck I like. As I see fit.

At the moment, I choose to prioritise the rights of women and girls. End of.

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