Posters jumping before they're pushed

Yipyap I agree about the bullying, I glance at threads and think uh oh. nasty stuff going on here so walk away. Just seen a post directed at me where the poster totally misread my post and went off on a rant. That happens a lot these days.

I've been reading here for a couple of years. I come from a background with a lot of abuse, a lot of fear and have been using evasive tactics since I was a child as a result. I tend to shut down and not speak, or delete my own posts.

The bullying going on here is shocking.

Is the site for sale? What value will a women's site have without feminism when even stuffy anti- feminist women love their 100 years of suffrage, and their own credit cards.

Or is it those M16 employees - are they the kind of children brought up in dark rooms with high end gaming consoles, carried between real world venues in paladins, who are now young adults desperate to be useful and feeling all altruistic and self righteous.

This place was a refuge for women, somewhere people could talk or listen, but it is becoming a malign zone. I am trying to continue supplying all my usual clicks for the company but it's causing me a lot of tension now. Surrounded by bullies nothing good, and nothing intellectual can ever grow.

Please can someone PM me a link to 'the other place'? i would hate to lose this group! Thanks

Doctorcuntybollocks, do you have some basis for saying that beyond it just being what you think? You're stating it like it's a known fact to you. Can you say why at all?

I have to smile our forum owner banned swearing unless you specifically agreed you were happy to see it. Then it was under a spoiler which you had to click on to see. One rule... Do NOT disguise ANY profanities with asterisks, acronyms or initialisms for phrases; these will be edited. For example; WTF, FFS and STFU are totally unacceptable and will be subject to sanctions.

You have to remember Mumsnet is a business, there are volunteers who are having to read every blooming post... checking every complaint.

HQ may flap their gums about vexatious reporting, but nearly all of the reporting on these issues is vexatious and it's coming from the acronymic side.

I'm delurking to request a pm to the Other Place. Or at least if someone could let me know how to send a pm from the app, I've never done it before!

I read the FWR board daily, I just don't often post and I'm even less likely to now the guidelines are so strict but I'm in awe of those of you that have managed to explain the situation so clearly and patiently so many times. I think more people are reading and agreeing than you realise.

I feel sad because MN really opened my eyes to this debate and I worry that once people leave a lot of women will miss out on the excellent analysis here.

Also spontaneous I read this whole thread and I have absolutely no idea what you could have written that needed deleting.

I have no faith in HQ. I think they feel genuine horror and disgust towards us because of our unladylike behaviour.

JuzzaL "How about for a start, only letting registered users report posts, and making sure those users that report are genuine and not just signed up purely to report?"

MNHQ already specifically covered this in their guidelines post. Vexatious reporting is being actively looked out for, and those who do it will be warned and then banned.

spontaneous - you seem to have two deletions on this thread. (At least it was two when I started typing this. It may be more by now!)

Were the powers that be clear about whether the two deletions constituted one strike between them or one for each?

Just asking that question reinforces how bizarre all this now is

I'd have a hell of a lot more understanding for an owner "standing firm" than for one who flip flops all over the place, trying to please everyone and producing rules that people can't understand.

Lol did they Beyond? It must have been so insipid that I missed it!

Just a thought the forum I modded on our owner stood absolutely firm about the way it was run, a lot of folk huffed off elsewhere when a new forum was set up. Just checked it now tis a sad shadow of the original forum. But horses for courses if you are happier on a quiet forum that fills your needs then that is your right. The original forum is thriving btw.

pratchet

Same here

Right i think i might need to know where the new place is...just in case

I'll pm you spontaneous

I know there's so much anger at HQ but I still have faith. I really do.

Now now last, that isn't true - they posted that rather opaque update, what more do you want?