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Why are trans things discussed in Feminism section not a separate topic or have I missed something?

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PearlyG8 · 24/06/2018 01:40

Slightly confused. Apologies for any unintended offence.

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AngryAttackKittens · 24/06/2018 09:06

It's like they knew that if they said "Nazi" they'd immediately be mocked for Godwinning, so "biological elitist" was the next best thing they could come up with.

To normal reasonable humans it sounds like you're describing a group of people who'll only socialize with professional athletes who part-time as catwalk models and plan to become physics professors once their athletic careers are finished.

Prawnofthepatriarchy · 24/06/2018 09:03

Biological elitism? How dare reality distinguish between the sexes! Shocking. Hmm Being female isn't some exclusive club men can join if they bully women hard enough.

TerfsUp · 24/06/2018 08:57

"Biological elitism"! Haahaha. What a stupid term.

AngryAttackKittens · 24/06/2018 08:57

Next person who needs to namechange should call herself ExclusionaryUterus.

UpstartCrow · 24/06/2018 08:53

"Biological Elitism".
Black Lives Matter - are they "Biological Elitists" now?

TransplantsArePlants · 24/06/2018 08:47

Baroque

Yes.

I'd laugh at that phrase if it weren't so annoying.

Baroquehavoc · 24/06/2018 08:45

biological elitism: when female people recognise that male people rape and sexually assault female people and have the audacity to try to stop it happening.

thebewilderness · 24/06/2018 06:32

Pretty much DARVO all the way down, innit?

TransplantsArePlants · 24/06/2018 06:25

Damn my elitist problematic Uterus

Damn my highbrow night sweats

Damn my condescending ovaries

AnotherQuoll · 24/06/2018 05:27

There's a quote somewhere, about how the way men hate women is different from the way women hate men; noting that women who hate men do their best to avoid them, whereas men who hate women, instead of just keeping away from us, deliberately hunt us down, invade our spaces, stalk and follow us around pestering and/or attacking us.

Agrona · 24/06/2018 05:05

Sorry, my last comment was rude and abrasive due to anger.

MrsTerryPratchett · 24/06/2018 04:11

How can you fight for women's rights when you can't define 'women'?

Pratchet · 24/06/2018 03:41

Ah, how could I forget the Fawcett Society and the WEP. After us, it will be the Soroptimists.

Pratchet · 24/06/2018 03:39

When FWR is destroyed there will simply be a move to the next target. LGB has gone, Michfest has gone, Anarchist Book fair, Newham Ladies' College, innumerable social media lesbian and women's groups, the Suffragettes, so many losses.

Agrona · 24/06/2018 03:30

"Biological Elitism"????

Hilarious!

Females, women, the ones who have been oppressed for our biology for centuries are elitists? Because of our biology.

HA!

thebewilderness · 24/06/2018 03:26

I could be wrong but as I understand it women oppress men by having something men want and refusing to share.

LightofaSilveryMoon · 24/06/2018 03:14

Why don't transactivists argue their case on men's boards/Twitter feeds, instead of bullying women?

Pratchet · 24/06/2018 03:08

This would have been a good thread to start in LGBT if you want a separate trans board.

The only thing under discussion on FWR is the impact on women's rights.

Pratchet · 24/06/2018 03:05

There is an LGBT board. i don't know why transactivists don't use it for their campaigning. Well, I do.

PearlyG8 · 24/06/2018 02:55

Fowles autocorrect.

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PearlyG8 · 24/06/2018 02:54

John Bowles said something about biological elitism and it's also got something to do with primates apparently. I'm to inferior to do links or see relevance.

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LightofaSilveryMoon · 24/06/2018 02:43

Snappy - I'm sorry, but "biological elitism"??!! Really??!!

PearlyG8 · 24/06/2018 02:43

You don't think Trans issues deserve a dedicated section Snappity?

What is biological elitism? Do you mean patriarchal oppression?

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PearlyG8 · 24/06/2018 02:36

I certainly have no understanding of the Rules of 15th June (or whatever the date was) but the effect (or do I mean intent) seems to me as a fairly naive reader to ban discussion of women and children's rights, safety, security, privacy and dignity which does not confirm to the Rules. Maybe.

I don't see how I'm going to avoid getting banned eventually.

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Snappity · 24/06/2018 02:36

"I understand that people who oppose women and children's rights, safety, security, privacy and dignity, already have their own fora and messageboards on the internet, so why not join them, instead?"

Because there is an biological elitism attempt to take rights away from a particular group of women - trans women. That's a women's rights issue and belongs here.

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