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Why are trans things discussed in Feminism section not a separate topic or have I missed something?

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PearlyG8 · 24/06/2018 01:40

Slightly confused. Apologies for any unintended offence.

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BeUpStanding · 24/06/2018 13:45

I'm still chuckling at biological elitism Grin

jellyfrizz · 24/06/2018 13:43

How can you fight for women's rights when you can't define 'women'?

^^This

Waddlelikeapenguin · 24/06/2018 13:36

Sex is absolute.
Grin so say we all

PersonWithAVulva · 24/06/2018 13:35

desperately hoping to suck in a few more gullible recruits to the anti-trans cult

Are you seriously saying that anyone concerned about this is gullible?! I would say the reverse really. Anyone who thinks that transactivists have transsexual peoples interests at heart is absolutely gullible. They are creating more issues for trans people..who oddly enough have used the spaces of the sex they wish they were for a while now. But transactivists are demanding that any man who says he is a woman is let in else the business is discriminatory. And creating a whole shitstorm when it really was not needed at all.

Transactivists are just MRAs. They just want to destroy the rights of women. And possibly the rights of transwomen too.

Why are trans things discussed in Feminism section not a separate topic or have I missed something?
PersonWithAVulva · 24/06/2018 13:32

Ah yet another calling feminists 'anti-trans' as calling feminists 'pro-women' is like saying water is fucking wet!

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Datun · 24/06/2018 12:46

There are no exemptions to that. Sex is absolute.

From the person who claims Caitlin Jenner is an infertile woman, just like any other, due to not being able to gestate.

Grin
CertainHalfDesertedStreets · 24/06/2018 11:43

C'mon guys. She just hasn't noticed us having the conversation twice a week, every fucking week for the last two years

Pratchet · 24/06/2018 11:29

Yes natural: all the 'oh excuse me I'm just sleepy and ditsy' was rather a clue

Pratchet · 24/06/2018 11:28

Absolute

Why are trans things discussed in Feminism section not a separate topic or have I missed something?
NaturalBornWoman · 24/06/2018 11:27

I'm not understanding why the OP is concerned about whether the topic is pushing other issues off the board considering they aren't a participant in any of the feminist threads this year as far as I can tell, and therefore not really affected. At the same time they have started another thread which has been derailed from the original topic by the usual method, has degenerated into goady fuckery and is taking up space on page 1 of the board. Just an observation.

CertainHalfDesertedStreets · 24/06/2018 11:23

I liked it too AAK Grin

Pratchet · 24/06/2018 11:23

Its not it's

Pratchet · 24/06/2018 11:22

No, not for all purposes because EQ 2010 exemptions.

The phrase 'for all purposes' means 'to all intents and purposes' which means, basically, as if.

Sex is indeed, absolute and immutable but it's source and definition does not come from a piece of paperSmile

Popchyk · 24/06/2018 11:20

Sex is absolute.

Hallelujah. I think we finally got there.

CertainHalfDesertedStreets · 24/06/2018 11:19

And no, 'I am an intersex woman' isn't going to be the mind blowing rhetoric you think it is at this point either.

AngryAttackKittens · 24/06/2018 11:19

There are no exemptions to that. Sex is absolute.

Just leaving that quote here for the ironic enjoyment of anyone who pops into the thread later.

CertainHalfDesertedStreets · 24/06/2018 11:17

Please leave intersex women out of it. They are not some gotcha to be appropriated by you and used whenever the answer to your rhetorical question is 'yes, we don't want people with dicks in feminism, not now, not ever.'

Snappity · 24/06/2018 10:51

"None are 'legally female', whatvthey have is the right to be treated as if they were female, except in certain circumstances."

Sex becomes that shown on the new birth certificate "for all purposes".

There are no exemptions to that. Sex is absolute.

NotTerfNorCis · 24/06/2018 10:34

When FWR is destroyed there will simply be a move to the next target. LGB has gone, Michfest has gone, Anarchist Book fair, Newham Ladies' College, innumerable social media lesbian and women's groups, the Suffragettes, so many losses.

Was thinking about this. The TRAs wanted in to Michfest so badly, they used bomb threats, boycotts, all kind of dirty tricks. Now that Michfest has gone, who mourns its passing? Not a single TRA. They're jubilant. They had targetted something that failed to validate them, and now it's gone they're satisfied. It will be the same with FWR and all other women's groups which refuse to validate trans ideology.

Pratchet · 24/06/2018 10:27

trans women, including those who are legally female

None are 'legally female', whatvthey have is the right to be treated as if they were female, except in certain circumstances.

Also it's just pointless if we don't have the same meaning for 'woman'. Conversation is about communication, which is about understanding, which is about meaning.

TransplantsArePlants · 24/06/2018 10:26

Yes. Make sure he gets a woman doctor to do it

TeenTimesTwo · 24/06/2018 10:26

Pratchet Thanks for the link. I'll have a read re what is says about Newnham and see if I need to write...

AngryAttackKittens · 24/06/2018 10:21

It's hard, Transplants, but I'm consoling myself with the thought of oppressing DH by making him go get his checked out.

(Mwah hah hah, etc.)

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