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Saturday roll call

63 replies

Amalfimamma · 23/06/2018 06:40

Still here, still two strikes, kids up since silly o'clock.

Is every0ne ok?

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ballsballsballs · 23/06/2018 13:02

Still here.

Pratchet · 23/06/2018 12:52

Heels

Feminists deleted for speaking the truth. Coming soon: deleted for not telling a lie.

LangCleg · 23/06/2018 12:19

I suspect MN are trying to force us to use a certain word but don't want to state that explicitly.

Yes. Which is why I'm going to die on the hill of not using the W word with or without the bloody spaces. I will not have my speech compelled.

FloralBunting · 23/06/2018 12:18

womanformally is that the Change My Mind video from Steven Crowder? He's an interesting character. Not my cup of tea humour-wise, it's all a bit frat boy, but he does do some very thought provoking stuff about identity politics.

womanformallyknownaswoman · 23/06/2018 12:13

Hi all - pleased to see you all here - I am present in all my glory :)

Men are still men - btw there's an excellent video I'm watching which is on another thread, where a male commentator was asking for his mind to be changed through debate with TRAs on an Amercian Uni campus. He believes in biology and 2 genders - male and female. It's great as he pulls apart the irrationality behind their claims and none can refute.

daimbars · 23/06/2018 11:51

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TellsEveryoneRealFacts · 23/06/2018 10:58

Morning all. Still here and still only one strike.

I have been pretty busy elsewhere though.

Terfulike · 23/06/2018 10:55

When I taught at a tutorial college I used to have a lot of Chinese students. I used to talk to them a lot about the education system in China (which is absolutely fascinating), and inevitably we would stray into free speech. When they were at home in China they would often email me with questions about their homework tasks etc.

One mature student started emailing me regularly getting me to look things up on the Internet for him and email any key results back. He wasn't permitted to do this as certain areas of the Internet are blocked in China. This was completely innocuous stuff about biology and chemistry. I used to feel really sorry for him that he lived in a country like that. I used to wonder how people could sleep at night exerting such power over the free passage of information.

I'm starting to get similar vibes from having my Twitter suspended and now two strikes on mn in two days. I'm not a particularly wise, knowledgeable or respected poster here but I have my point of view and can see that other people's points of view are also being stifled.

Mumsnet should be deeply ashamed for policing our thought like this.

AngryAttackKittens · 23/06/2018 10:54

I realize hope springs eternal and all, but I really don't see the majority of those who haven't cooperated so far suddenly deciding that they're actually fine with using terms for male people that include the word "woman".

BettyFloop · 23/06/2018 10:53

Morning all

spontaneousgiventime · 23/06/2018 10:37

I suspect MN are trying to force us to use a certain word but don't want to state that explicitly.

Agree.

spontaneousgiventime · 23/06/2018 10:36

Terfulike No apology needed. I'll have a look.

That said, with two strikes even if one was removed, I'm not sure I'm the best person to be interpreting the new rules. I don't seem to have done a good job for myself Grin

Popchyk · 23/06/2018 10:35

Present.

And correct.

Baroquehavoc · 23/06/2018 10:34

Terfulike I have no idea why you post was deleted last night. I think posters rather than posts are being targeted in some cases.

I got a warning but not a strike for [acronym] MNHQ say it circumvents the rules.

I suspect MN are trying to force us to use a certain word but don't want to state that explicitly.

Terfulike · 23/06/2018 10:33

Sorry if I misrepresented you sponty, earlier in the same thread I mentioned the text of my first one

spontaneousgiventime · 23/06/2018 10:28

UpstartCrow Yes. I got a warning but not a strike for [acronym] MNHQ say it circumvents the rules.

UpstartCrow · 23/06/2018 10:26

Aah, excuse me being slow on the uptake, but do people mean that literally posting ''[acronym]'' is now banned?

spontaneousgiventime · 23/06/2018 10:25

Terfulike I don't know why you got the first, the second I read before it was deleted and didn't think it was bad enough for a strike. Actually, I didn't think it was that bad at all. Have you posted about your first strike in the other place?

Terfulike · 23/06/2018 10:21

I have two strikes and don't feel I deserved them. Sponty agrees with me

spontaneousgiventime · 23/06/2018 10:17

Cough - Sponty was not pist (sic) last night (sadly).

Present and correct, still only one strike.

BlackeyedSusan · 23/06/2018 09:16

Morning. No strikes as I have not posted anything much recently. I did have a light the blue touch paper moment irl tho. Need to follow up on that.

LangCleg · 23/06/2018 09:09

Present, no strikes. (I did report myself and ask for a post to be removed because I was obnoxious about it and had made the same points without being obnoxious earlier in the same thread.)

What is happening to Picasso? Which thread do I need to read?

TransplantsArePlants · 23/06/2018 09:01

Hi all

TerfsUp · 23/06/2018 08:17

Trf is your name alright then, not breaks no rules*

No one has said anything to me so I am guessing that it's ok.

AngryAttackKittens · 23/06/2018 07:50

Is Picasso on her last strike or just too annoyed with the censorship to continue?

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