Sex vs Gender on forms

Snappity as Samphire says, you seem to be confused.
Is sex the same as gender, or not?
Can sex be changed or not?

Oh I didn't see this! I started a similar thread this morning on aibu after seeing someone finding out the "gender" of their baby

Ooh! Shall we get a stamp made

I had to complete the attached recently and was glad I had a paper copy to scrawl over

But in another thread you just intimated that Sex and Gender in the EA mean the same thing... or were you just joshing

I use sex as it used in the Equality Act 2010. The examples show social components.

I didn’t understand either.

Please explain yourself, Snappity. I didn't understand your comment and it's clear no one else did either.

Baited breath.

Come on Snappity. I want to hear your definition of sex.

Even more disadvantage from stereotyping of women though. Women gain immensely from a focus on gender rather than sex.

Ridiculous. What women (and gender nonconforming males) would benefit from is a rejection of gender stereotyping and arbitrary, culture-specific rules as to what forms of behaviour, interests and presentation are appropriate to either sex.

Snappity Even more disadvantage from stereotyping of women though. Women gain immensely from a focus on gender rather than sex.

Eh? What does this mean? The two statements appear to contradict one another.

Even more disadvantage from stereotyping of women though.

Well, yes. I'd agree that stereotyping of women leads to more disadvantage than biological differences do. But the gender stereotypes applied to women (and men), and the behaviour encouraged of women (and men) are attributed on the basis of biological sex...

Women gain immensely from a focus on gender rather than sex.

No, we don't. We are oppressed by gender roles. We are oppressed by the concept of a "ladybrain" or some innate female "essense". And again, this gender bollox is inflicted on us because we are born female, so sex is rather important, hmm?

Sex is the protected characteristic but the word doesnothave the narrow meaning some here claim.

What is your definition of sex?

Gender identity is entirely subjective and not a criterion for creating policy.

But that is not what you mean is it snappity, you don't mean that at all, you are using that to finagle a meaning of female that no longer refers to females.

You've already shown your hand snappity1.

"Women are disadvantaged by our sex."

Even more disadvantage from stereotyping of women though. Women gain immensely from a focus on gender rather than sex.

OK, Snappity, so what do you say sex means?

I should warn you that the intersex community has requested that proponents of transgender ideology not drag them into the debate. Disorders of sexual development endorse rather than dismantle the sex binary.

Sorry for getting your name wrong before.

Go on then, I'll bite, what do you think the word 'sex' means on forms, and how is it less appropriate than using 'gender' when collecting data for equality purposes, given that sex is the protected characteristic?

Sex is the protected characteristic but the word does not have the narrow meaning some here claim.

Snippety, sex is a protected characteristic. Gender identity, of its nature, is entirely subjective. We have no way to test it. Sex is objective. Women are disadvantaged by our sex.

I always write sex instead of gender on a paper form but increasingly these days forms are online and there's no option that makes my point. I don't want to be gender=female because I don't buy in to this gender bollocks, but I don't want whoever is collecting the data to get the impression that I am gender queer/transgender/whatevs and thereby artificially enlarge the population of this group.

Basically what Snappity is doing with all this word manipulation is demanding that sex IS NOT protected.

Snappity the point is that there is a difference and the EA uses different terms for the protected characteristics. It is not up to the whim of any organisation or individual to change the wording of the law to suit their own agenda!

That and your post is nonsensical! Biology exists... and if you have that much pull with the EHRC you really should know that!

Your blithe statement of tripe is amusing but it is also a prime example of what it is so many people are fighting against!

There are 4 billion females with the same biology. We know what it means.

YANBU and probably also right about British prudishness playing into it.

The meaning of biological sex is perfectly clear. Can you clearly define what 'gender' means?