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message to anti trans hate speakers

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ElliePhantW33 · 21/06/2018 03:19

I know it's hard to tell how mixed up you feel
Hoping what you need is behind every door
Each time you get hurt, I don't want you to change
Because everyone has hopes, you're human after all
The feeling sometimes, wishing you were someone else
Feeling as though you never belong
This feeling is not sadness, this feeling is not joy
I truly understand. Please, don't cry now

Please don't go, I want you to stay
I'm begging you please, please don't leave here
I don't want you to hate
For all the hurt that you feel
The world is just illusion, trying to change you

OP posts:
haXXor · 21/06/2018 22:24

That penis is a weapon of rape
Is a truth from which we can't escape.
Even females who say they're men
Are reminded every now and then[1]
That in their pants will always be
An unpatchable security vulnerability.

Your feelings of gender identity
Do not alter medical reality
Nor do they stop women's eyes
From seeing through your "feminine" disguise.
Decades of male socialisation
Are never erased by taking oestrogen.

We rightly fear the male who calls himself a woman
But does not respect the boundaries of women.

[1] "Normal life : administrative violence, critical trans politics, and the limits of law", p. x, by Dean Spade (2015) details a transman who asked for transfer to a female prison because, surprise surprise, being a vagina owner in a prison full of penis owners is bloody dangerous.

Gretol · 21/06/2018 22:22

I reported this thread as spam last night and got an email today saying it had been deleted and the OP given their marching orders!

Sciencelogic · 21/06/2018 22:20

Pink
I've been dipping in and out of MN all day, generally larking about.
I should be at work. lol

AngryAttackKittens · 21/06/2018 22:20

Maybe "arsehole" will eventually be the only insult allowed, since everyone has one of those.

(Waits for someone to come along "well actually some people are born without you inconsiderate bigot! I identify as 100% arsehole free!)

pinkgirl1234 · 21/06/2018 22:19

Being quite frank I've shagged enough of them to know that's not true.

[envious smiley]

pinkgirl1234 · 21/06/2018 22:18

Maybe smileys are transphobic now too, since everything else seems to be!

Ooh I hope "fannying about" isn't!

And I just called my (male) kitten a cunt - quite justifiably btw. I wonder if that is? Probably. Smile

AngryAttackKittens · 21/06/2018 22:16

I really do miss the 90s. Remember when wearing makeup didn't mean we were meant to not only pretend a man was a woman but preemptively assume he "identified" as one just in case?

Being quite frank I've shagged enough of them to know that's not true.

BeyondSceptical · 21/06/2018 22:12

Also thanks to mip for finishing my song 😂

BeyondSceptical · 21/06/2018 22:11

Moloko is my ideal man 😍

pinkgirl1234 · 21/06/2018 22:11

Where's my smiley?

Grin You can't just have a generic smiley, Sciencelogic.

You have to have a specific smiley. Like a smile smiley or a sad smiley or an angry smiley - which seem like oxymorons.

Ignore me btw, I'm just fannying about on MN posting rubbish instead of getting on with my day and doing "stuff" Grin

AngryAttackKittens · 21/06/2018 22:09

Maybe smileys are transphobic now too, since everything else seems to be!

Sciencelogic · 21/06/2018 22:04

Where's my smiley?

Sciencelogic · 21/06/2018 22:03

AAK

Moloko is just fine as he is [smiley]!

AngryAttackKittens · 21/06/2018 21:51

Placebo! I bet Moloko would be assumed to be trans now by the kidz.

pinkgirl1234 · 21/06/2018 21:43

My ding-a-ling.

Is that a euphemism @TerfsUp?

Are you trying to tell us something? Grin

Sciencelogic · 21/06/2018 21:42

Award for the most apt song title goes to....

Drumroll.....

TerfsUp
My Ding-a-Ling
Oh how we laughed when this got to number one and banned.

Sciencelogic · 21/06/2018 21:33

wicked
Placebo, love em.

Babee
Don't forget to take your meds..

thebewilderness · 21/06/2018 21:29

Sometimes late when things are real
And people share the gift of gab between themselves
Some are quick to take the bait
And catch the perfect prize that waits among the shells

But Oz never did give nothing to the Tin Man
That he didn't, didn't already have
And Cause never was the reason for the evening
Or the tropic of Sir Galahad.

So please believe in me
When I say I'm spinning round, round, round, round
Smoke glass stain bright color
Image going down, down, down, down
Soapsuds green like bubbles

TerfsUp · 21/06/2018 21:29

My ding-a-ling.

waterlego6064 · 21/06/2018 21:25

Hear the words I sing
War’s a horrid thing,
So I sing, sing, sing...
...ding-a-ling-a-ling

waterlego6064 · 21/06/2018 21:24

I think the words of Baldrick are poignant here...

Boom, boom, boom, boom,
Boom, boom, boom, boom.
Boom, boom
Boom, boom
Boom, boom, boom.

boldlygoingsomewhere · 21/06/2018 21:02

Loving the poems and the great Danny Kaye.

Shakespeare knew a thing or two...
From Midsummer Night’s Dream:

‘Nay, Faith! Let me not play a woman; I have a beard coming.’

WickedLazy · 21/06/2018 20:46

Oooh now I've remembered Jeffrey Star, Scotty Vanity etc, also big back in the "scene kid" days Grin

Hold your emotions under the knife.
Let's pretend, we're satisfied.
Non-refundable and overhyped.
Now you look like you feel on the inside.
You wanna do something with your life?
Drop dead... HELLO!
Drop dead... GOODBYE!

And this gem

Hey bitches, my scalp itches
I'll do my own damn hair
Pshyeah
I need more gel
My hair looks like hell
Fucking bitches
Oh My God

Prawnofthepatriarchy · 21/06/2018 20:43

Ruby, I'm old. It was back in the 1970s. I

Sexism was all permeating in those days. For example, women had to do papers on all the works of both Chaucer and Shakespeare to read English at Oxbridge. Men could choose one. My English teacher told me he'd have put me forward if I were a boy.

Those were the days, my friend...

RaininSummer · 21/06/2018 20:36

Hilarious. Vogan TRA poetic alliance 😁

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