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yogyakarta principles plus 10

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happydappy2 · 20/06/2018 19:36

Is anyone familiar with the yogyakarta principles plus 10? Have just read through & it looks like people who decide to change their sex, will have the right to a new birth certificate showing their 'new' sex. There will be no way of checking a persons history

STATES SHALL:
A. Ensure that official identity documents only include personal information that is relevant, reasonable and necessary as required by the law for a legitimate purpose, and thereby end the registration of the sex and gender of the person in identity documents such as birth certificates, identification cards, passports and driver licences, and as part of their legal personality.
iii. Ensure that no eligibility criteria, such as medical or psychological interventions, a psycho-medical diagnosis, minimum or maximum age, economic status, health, marital or parental status, or any other third party opinion, shall be a prerequisite to change one’s name, legal sex or gender;
iv. Ensure that a person’s criminal record, immigration status or other status is not used to prevent a change of name, legal sex or gender.

I'm just concerned about the safeguarding issues here surrounding women and children. Particularly the no minimum age for children & the fact a persons criminal record will mean nothing-this is worrying. Are there any safeguards in place at all?

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Kyanite · 20/06/2018 20:48

They do matter.

"23.The Equality and Human Rights Commission (EHRC)18 emphasised the importance of “a single, strong and clear strategy to lever progress”.19 Stonewall told us that “establishing a transparent mechanism for cross-government working, with a specific ‘trans equality’ remit, would provide a way to focus expertise and to consult with trans communities”.20 We also heard from various quarters the view that the UK government should adopt the overarching principles on trans equality embodied in two international declarations:21

the Yogyakarta Principles on the Application of International Human Rights Law in relation to Sexual Orientation and Gender Identity, adopted by the International Commission of Jurists in 2007;22 and
Resolution 2048: Discrimination against transgender people in Europe, adopted by the Parliamentary Assembly of the Council of Europe in April 2015.23

These set out an overarching framework for trans equality in law, based on the principle of a universal right for individuals to determine their own gender identity and to have this respected and recognised."

publications.parliament.uk/pa/cm201516/cmselect/cmwomeq/390/39005.htm

OldCrone · 20/06/2018 20:46

Will anyone in the UK take them seriously?

Every time you see something like:

Gender identity is understood to refer to each person’s deeply felt internal and individual experience of gender, which may or may not correspond with the sex assigned at birth

That has come straight from the Yogyakarta Principles.

The Scottish GRA consultation quoted them as being international best practice. In short, everyone in power seems to be taking them seriously.

3.10. The view of the Scottish Government is that the 2004 Act requirements are unnecessarily intrusive and do not reflect the best practice now embodied in the Yogyakarta Principles and Resolution 2048.

Wanderabout · 20/06/2018 20:40

They have no force in law right? So what is the point of them?

Wanderabout · 20/06/2018 20:39

How important are these principles and who is driving or deciding them? Will anyone in the UK take them seriously?

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happydappy2 · 20/06/2018 20:33

Looks like a group of men! Is extremely worrying though so wanted to share

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Melamin · 20/06/2018 20:29

Where do these principles come from?

Who gets to decide?

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happydappy2 · 20/06/2018 20:24

Thanks-haven’t time to watch now, but reading the section on sports it’s clear that if we implement these policies it’s the end of womens competitive sports.....this really annoys me

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Terfulike · 20/06/2018 20:02

Here's one of it's authors in full flow.

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