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Very basic, obvious examples of male privilege please?

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tigersox · 18/06/2018 19:21

Examples every man will experience. Undeniable and obvious

I'm trying to make male privilege simple to a friend who feels us feminists have gone too far.

Thanks Grin

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A4710Rider · 19/06/2018 15:19

I call BS on two counts

Of course you would.

However, here are some facts

The most amount of deaths in the workplace happened in the construction industry. (HSSE)

In the UK there are 2.3 million people working in the construction industry. 296,000 of those were women.

www.constructionnews.co.uk/data/industry-barometer/women-in-construction-what-do-the-numbers-say/10017870.article

The fact that there are less female deaths in the construction industry is due to female privilege of not wanting to work in the construction industry.

Carboholic · 19/06/2018 15:15

At work, not wondering if an older colleague complimenting your work is really complimenting your work, or trying to get into your pants.

Not constantly policing your actions, clothes and conversation so that some senior arse at work would not "get the wrong impression".

Better medical care - men are believed by doctors more, eg get prescribed more painkillers when reporting the same amount of pain, need fewer visits to the doctor to get things properly investigated, etc. Not to mention childbirth related medical care - if men had a cut that left them with a 100 stitches on their dongs, you bet that the 6 week checkup would be a bit more thorough; and "my nipples are bleeding" would not be met with "grin and bear it".

Women, even in couples with both parents working full time, still do a bulk of childcare, housework, and organising (mental workload).

bd67th · 19/06/2018 15:13

3. A woman can reproduce.

So can men, and without having to gestate for nine months. Do you think we reproduce withour male input? We also have to navigate birth control with side effects and health risks, men don't.

4. A woman is far less likely to be murdered (UK).

BY WHO? Over 90% of violent crime is perpetrated by men. Men murdering other men is not female privilege, it's men's problem for men to fix. We are busy dealing with you killing and raping us.

Southfields · 19/06/2018 15:11

A4710Rider

"most of the riskier jobs are done by males. Another female privilege."

I call BS on two counts.

  1. It's men who set up the world of work and assigned different jobs to men and women.

  2. If being a housewife can be described as a woman's job - which it has been for centuries - as at least one housewife per week is murdered by her husband, this is the most dangerous job in the UK.

No male job in the UK has 50+ fatalities a year.

A4710Rider · 19/06/2018 15:10

Bad things that men do to other men do not constitute female privilege

What are the bad things that men do to each other in the work place that results in 95% more men dying than women?

Southfields · 19/06/2018 15:06

MorrisZapp

"You can cheat on your wife and society, including women, will blame the woman you slept with."

You can cheat on your wife and society, including women, will blame your wife for letting herself go or focussing too much on her new baby or not being adventurous enough in bed. Because it's a woman's duty to be an ever-novel plaything for a man to stop him straying.

bd67th · 19/06/2018 15:06

Bad things that men do to other men do not constitute female privilege.

And if you actually gave half a shit about fixing the crap men deal out to other men instead of using it an excuse to push women back down, you'd unionise, strike for better conditions, call each other out on unsafe behaviour, mock those who try to glamourise risk-taking, condemn those who resort to violence, and support peers with mental health problems.

A4710Rider · 19/06/2018 15:00

it's no surprise that 95% of workplace fatalities are male

It's not, because most of the riskier jobs are done by males. Another female privilege.

A4710Rider · 19/06/2018 14:59

I would love to know in what respects I get actual privilege over me

  1. A woman can reproduce.
  1. A woman is far less likely to be murdered (UK)
Southfields · 19/06/2018 14:58

Male privilege is...

knowing you are guaranteed an orgasm during a one night stand fuck.

Southfields · 19/06/2018 14:57

Vicky1990

Years ago, 83% of those killed in wars globally were male.

Currently, 83% of those killed in wars globally are female or under 16s.

bd67th · 19/06/2018 14:56

Bearing in mind male pattern risktaking behaviour, it's no surprise that 95% of workplace fatalities are male. Who or what is the causal agent here? Are women going around pushing men off MEWPs or are men failing to clip in to their fall arrest gear? Are women running construction companies that don't prioritise safety, or are men doing that?

Bad things that men do to other men do not constitute female privilege.

The five year mean lifespan difference is again down to male pattern risktaking.

Redcrayons · 19/06/2018 14:55
  1. So the person sat opposite me, doing the same work as me (in our safe no risk office) should be paid more because statistically he’s more likely to die at work, even though, in practice he isn’t.
rainingcatsanddog · 19/06/2018 14:53

Tradesmen assume that invoices for their work need to go to my h. Or they assume that I need my h to approve a quote. (I'm single)

In Game, when people come over to ask if I need help they assume that I am buying a gift for a male. ( I work in games development)

Many people assume that really simple things like setting up a PS4 or changing the router password is too technical for me as I'm a mum.

bd67th · 19/06/2018 14:50

I would love to know in what respects I get actual privilege over men, as opposed to restrictions dressed up as privilege e.g. the recently-withdrawn ban on women in frontline combat, which is often portrayed by MRAs as female privilege instead of the career-limiting condescending tripe that it is.

A4710Rider · 19/06/2018 14:48

Fermats,

Just for you, here is a sub-thread. I shall start slowly.

  1. I demand that women and men should receive equal pay but ignore the fact that over 95% of all work place deaths are male.
  1. It privilege that a woman can expect to live for almost 5 years longer than a man (UK)

Shall I go on?

MimpiDreams · 19/06/2018 14:38

My DD was diagnosed with autism at 15.

My DS was diagnosed at 4.

DD's difficulties were way more obvious than DS's and she's always needed a lot more support than DS. But because she is female her issues were not taken seriously.

FermatsTheorem · 19/06/2018 14:36

One does, does one? But one isn't going to.

How very, very diverting. I am positively agog with curiosity as to how such a thread would go.

(Actually, I'm not. I predict... tumbleweed.)

A4710Rider · 19/06/2018 14:26

One feels the need to start a female privilege thread.

But I shan't.

SamHeughansLeftEyebrow · 19/06/2018 14:24

YY to being ignored by mechanics. See also plumbers, builders, decorators, electricians, carpet fitters, bathroom fitters etc. Can you tell we have been having work done? Despite me working from home full time, and therefore on site to answer questions, most got directed to DH. And if I answered any, they asked me to check that DH was in agreement.

UpstartCrow · 19/06/2018 14:12

tigersox

What are his examples of feminism having gone too far?

lonalsland · 19/06/2018 14:09

Recognition of pain and it not being pooh poohed!

Some doctors will ignore pain and just say it's something you've got to put up with in women (eg serious period pain) yet pain in a man will be investigated and treated properly and with respect.

metrorider · 19/06/2018 12:47

I was driving my car in the Lake District and glanced the front left wheel off a bit of drystone wall and it started squealing alarmingly, so I booked it into the garage. Despite me booking the car in, driving it, owning it, and paying for the work, the mechanic kept talking to my then-boyfriend instead of me. Said boyfriend did not at any time correct the mechanic, but talked to him as if it was his car! (We're not together any more, fancy that.) Being on holiday and at the mercy of the only mechanic in town, I could hardly chide the mechanic, what if he refused to do the work? Male privilege is mechanics not treating you like you're invisible when your partner is with you.

The same boyfriend, on the same holiday, decided, whilst I was driving along a winding 50mph road, to run his hand up my inner thigh. To him, acting on his sexual urges was more important than not hitting a drystone wall at 50mph. Yes, I blew my stack at him, I couldn't believe he was so stupid. He's not the first man to sexually assault, because none of them ever asked and no reasonable person would assume the driver consents to being distracted like that when driving distract me at the wheel. Dare I say "male sexual entitlement" and "male pattern risk-taking"?

SamHeughansLeftEyebrow · 19/06/2018 12:46

Businesses not returning my phone calls. DH leaves a message and they phone back in minutes. Even he has started to recognise how often this happens after I pointed it out a couple of times.

TheSausageEmperor · 19/06/2018 12:38

If you are a male single parent, you are automatically a saint.

Was going to post much the same thing.

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