Very basic, obvious examples of male privilege please?

Surely xenophobic, not sexist

Implying that all men are blyth about safety precautions and using machinary whilst on drugs

boggle

Female reproduction is a privilege? With the pain, the torn flesh and the bleeding that (can) go along with it?

Surely not giving birth is a huge male privilege, we get to spread our genes without that potentially lethal event?

A builder came round to quote a job. Hearing that I was separated from my exH, asked me if my dad was going to pay! I’m 47 this builder was younger than me.

Things aren’t changing.

your stats on men being the ones most likely to be killed at work are because the US has a problem with health and safety

I used UK stats.

I'm sorry, you can't escape from the fact, not matter how it is dressed up, that men do more riskier jobs than women. Mainly because women choose not to do the riskier jobs. It's a female privilege.

Bathroom floor? That should have said bedroom floor. Either way incredibly distasteful and sexist!

You're being sexist by the way.

Surely xenophobic, not sexist?

I recently attended a construction h&s course where the person running the course asked who the most common trespassers on construction sites are. The man sat across from me (wearing a t-shirt saying "this shirt would look better on your bathroom floor") piped up with "Women! Heheheh"

Our QS, Danni, often has people surprised when they meet/talk to her having only been told her name, and they discover she's a Danielle rather than Daniel like they were expecting.

But yes, the only reason more women don't work in construction is because they just don't want to. Let's not think about the reasons why they might not want to

In North America, where these stats often come from, construction workers use drugs and alcohol at an alarming rate. I worked in a homeless shelter, used as cheap accommodation for migrant construction workers, who would get good and fucking high on meth all night then go to work

I gave the UK HSSE Stats. Link attached. You're being sexist by the way.

www.hse.gov.uk/statistics/pdf/fatalinjuries.pdf

Haha yeh same with a window company for a window I was paying for . in my house . " do you want to check that's ok with your husband love "

What I think you guys miss is that things are changing and are changing quite quickly. This kind of attitude will be gone soon, it really will.

Both of my last two bosses, both excellent, both well respected for their work were female. It wasn't like that 15 years ago.

What are the bad things that men do to each other in the work place that results in 95% more men dying than women?

In North America, where these stats often come from, construction workers use drugs and alcohol at an alarming rate. I worked in a homeless shelter, used as cheap accommodation for migrant construction workers, who would get good and fucking high on meth all night then go to work.

I never walk under a crane or scaffolding.

Note me working in homeless shelters, where 90% of the residents were male and 90% of the staff were female (except management of course, lots of men there). Women solving men's problems caused by other men, managed by men.

@A4710Ride

1. 95% of all work place deaths are male because many of said males DON’T FOLLOW THE SAFETY PROCEDURES!!! And why? Because male privileges mean that they are used to doing as they damn well please and others cannot tell them what to do. Even when it is “Don’t smoke near the gas leaks”, “wear a hard hat”, “use the safety equipment”, “Don’t drink alcohol before operating this machine”.
2. See the answer above and also notice that a)less women smoke, less women abuse alcohol and less women are addicted to drugs. b) women don’t have to be herded to the doctor when they find lumps on their bodies. c) being grumpy and anti-social is bad for your health. More men than women are grumpy.

and seriously "what about men????". How would you feel if every time you tried to bring up a subject that was important to you, other people said "but what about issue whatever? The whatever is more important to me and therefore it is very rude of you to talk about any other issue than whatever! All attention in the world should be given to whatever!!! Shut up about other issues than whatever!!"

This is male privilege: that only your issue should be important and that you feel entitled to derail discussions about other issues to get them to talk about your issue instead! You are obviously only on Mumsnet to be dismissive to the other posters. Please leave and let us discuss matters that are important to us in peace.

A4710Rider
your stats on men being the ones most likely to be killed at work are because the US has a problem with health and safety, whereas in the UK we have a strong history of trade unions fighting for better conditions at work.
Is not female privilege if your workplace is dangerous because of shoddy conditions. Or because you 'traditionally' exclude women from certain jobs.

www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2017/08/07/deadliest-jobs-uk-much-pay/

Also, you've ignored prostitution, which has a high death rate. And its more dangerous to be a female civilian in a war zone than a male combatant.

Men dying at an earlier age is not female privilege.

Most of the 'examples' you give are not examples of female privilege. You really don't know what you're talking about.

I think he means the men were forced to work in construction.
I'm not sure whats forcing them to do that rather than forcing them to be, for example, cleaners.
Maybe he can elaborate? On Reddit or whatever forum hes from that has the concept of subthreads?

The fact that there are less female deaths in the construction industry is due to female privilege of not wanting to work in the construction industry.

Right. So the horrendous misogynist graffiti all over the inside of the lift hoardings when I went to do some pre-move-in comms work on a building site three years ago would have nothing to do with it? The builders wolf-whistling when I was thirteen in school uniform wouldn't put me off construction?

Women not working in construction isn't "female privilege" or a choice, it's a survival tactic because the industry is even more toxic than IT.

That construction is so dangerous is because working at heights isn't made safe enough. Most construction site deaths are caused by falls from height. Always clip in...

If most deaths at work across the board are caused by vehicle strikes, we need to ask who's driving and why they are so dangerous. Bearing in mind that I happen to know that most driving jobs are done by men, and men cause 74% of UK road traffic deaths and make up 95% of convictions for death by dangerous driving, it's pretty clear that the problem once again is ...drumroll... male pattern risktaking harming men.

Men, you need to sort yourselves out. Your violence and risktaking is not women's problem, nor is it within our capacity to fix.

“The fact that there are less female deaths in the construction industry is due to female privilege of not wanting to work in the construction industry.”

Not wanting to?...

Is he married? If so, ask him why he didn't change his name when he got married. Why Not? Didn't you want your entire family to have the same name? Why does he use Mr as a title? Is he ashamed of being married?

Ask him what message he is sending out by wearing that particular pair of trousers? Doe he not realise he's asking for trouble wearing something that emphasizes his buttocks? (you could easily use tie and neck, both are nonsensical)

Rider coming in and giving us all a classic example of male privelidge

• dismissing what women say by talking over us and giving it " but what about men "

seriously just leave us the space to talk without feeling the need to butt in somewhere where you don't have any experience

So go start your thread full of examples of women's privilege. The whole point of the blog I linked is that when women's issues are being discussed, there is no need to start hopping up and down saying 'what about men'.

Haha yeh same with a window company for a window I was paying for . in my house . " do you want to check that's ok with your husband love "

Yeh one sec il just call my non existent husband

Oh look, someone shouting what the the menz!

As we struggle down the road towards equality men should be aware that they have certain privileges because they are men. As do women. Talking about it shouldn't be a bad thing.

It might have already been said and I've missed it.

I rang a couple of window companies to get quotes for a new front door. Chose one to come round on a Saturday afternoon to discuss. My husband had unexpectedly been called in to work as occasionally happens, I said fine I'll deal with it and he said not a problem I trust your judgement.

Man from company rings to check we're home and will be there at arranged time. I said I was but husband now wasn't going to be. Told me he couldn't come without him there and we had to rearrange. Dressed it up as I need you both there in case there's any disagreement

So they were to,d where to stick their doors because I didn't need a man to have to agree to my choice of door or how it was being paid for, AND it was me paying for the damn thing anyway!

Oh look, someone shouting what the the menz!

victimfocus.wordpress.com/2018/01/03/stop-asking-me-what-about-men/

Thanks for the example.

The main cause of deaths in the workplace in 2017 was caused by being hit by moving vehicles, the second cause was falling from height. To blame that on "bad things men do to each other" is quite frankly ridiculous.

What are the bad things that men do to each other in the work place that results in 95% more men dying than women?

example:
"The boss of a firm contracted by a Tyneside maritime construction company to dismantle a shipyard building has been jailed for the manslaughter by gross negligence of one of his workers."
"NEMOC, which supplied the crane and crane driver, and its [male] director, Christopher William Taylor, failed to ensure the safety of its employees and sub-contracted workers"

So can men

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