Very basic, obvious examples of male privilege please?

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@tigersox "is this a general rule across the boards that women would prefer not to have men discussing here?

People that admit they are men or who are suspected of being male generally have a hard time here.

It's easier to use their gender to discredit them rather than engage with their opinions/arguments. It's a form of sexism/misandry

Men post here all the time. And lots are welcome. It's a certain type of posting.

I'm a man, sorry. I just wanted to understand. Because I don't believe that women have it harder than men. Blah blah blah twenty paragraphs of nonsense later. That's just my thoughts. Discuss.

And then two seconds later another wall of text educating women why they, who have spent 30, 40, 50 years being women and analyzing this stuff, are wrong. Because the 20 yo male poster once spoke to a few women. I wouldn't go on a forum about quantum mechanics and tell them they are wrong because I've never seen a quark. But some men appear to think that feminists are stupid, and can't think good. And need men to properly analyse this stuff for them.

Another example, if you think about it, of male privilege. Expecting to be listened to and expecting to be right. I'm an expert in my field but I know that I will spend at least five minutes trying to convince any men I talk to that I actually know more than them. Men are assumed to know.

I want to learn more about racism. I think it's important. So I subscribe to blogs and read articles and connect with resources and listen and read.

What I don't do is go to racebaitr or Black Lives Matter and post long, long posts about how All Lives Matter and white people have struggles too and how if only black people were less hostile white people would move over.

That is not how one learns.

I also reflect. I got into a thing here with someone about Justin Trudeau and have reflected long and hard about my white privilege and how it affected my thoughts. Hopefully our visitor can do the same.

@raign has made some very good points, and explained his point of view quite humbly and articulately, and has been attacked and vilified in response.

Lecture over Cait?

Or alternatively, engage your brain before depositing your poorly thought out and unwanted comments on a forum that isn't intended for you.

There's no hooks to hang handbags on under bars - in Spain etc there're there - I went to a hair salon designed and outfitted by women and there they were! Yeah! Also nowhere to hang handbag in car.

It's like we don't exist....

@raign
Go away
You’re not adding anything here just pissing people off - which may or may not have been your intention anyway

*Not doing all the thinking about children

Not being the default carer of children: being able to get praise for 'babysitting' their own children and 'helping' their wife*

^this

females are privileged because they get to “reproduce”
Ooh yes, I loved being ripped into my anus twice and the consequent incontinence and urgency issues. Such a privilege.

Fathers are so deprived in compsrison

It was in the news a while back. Awful isn't it.

And honestly I was here with a open mind for example medicine, I never knew was geared towards men, i always believed it was developed and trialled on both men and women which surprises me and if that indeed is true it needs to be changed

Ok I see I must've pissed many people off for believing male privilege wasn't a thing in western society, it was from my perspective, I'm not a woman I don't have first hand knowledge I just go from what female friends and family tell me about their experiences in the work place/life in general, maybe in my walk of life women don't have as many barriers whereas your experience you might be different, I was never trying to detract from women's problems or say they were equal in scale, a woman from the UK has more equality than a woman from Iran, but I was just trying to correct the misrepresentation that men have no fear and that we say and do what we like and see women as sex objects, which might be true for some men but that I wouldn't call male privilege just arrogance on their part and not a representation of men in general, anyways I apologize for anything controversial or triggering I might've said and sorry if anyone took anything I said negatively it was never my intention, I just see certain things that were said about men as a whole that being a man myself know is not exactly accurate at least in my life

Drugs are designed and tested for you. Such privilege!

Not having to constantly police your thoughts or the way you express them in case it hurts someone's feelings.

Getting to be the one who has their feelings hurt and being heard.
For example, airlines reviewing their policies about children travelling alone because a man got upset, this has been in the news several times over the last decade.

Did I read correctly further up the thread that someone thinks females are privileged because they get to “reproduce”??

Must enlighten DH that my two sons are nothing to do with him. He is currently under the apparent misapprehension that we have both reproduced but that because he is male, his bit was a lot easier and more pleasant than mine...

Seatbelts are designed for men, breasts interfere with them sitting right.

Ooh yes, one of my personal bugbears!

men don't have a special privilege but that both sexes have things that need improved
Do you think that the scale of things that need to be improved are the same for men and women?
I think it's evident that women have many more barriers in life than men. It always puzzles me that some men claim to be sympathetic to women yet say men are equally affected. I just don't see the evidence for that.

Anyways im not here to cause bother sorry this turned into the shit show it did, i was generally just trying to have a conversation to learn more

So if I didn't say I was a man that would've made a difference? I don't get what my sex had anything to do with it

I never said how to do feminism, actually I said I wanted to learn more about what male privilege means and my view on some of my experiences contradictory to some statements here

Again all I said was I wasn't here to hurt anyone's feelings just to read up on a subject that was mentioned to me and yes people being nice to one another goes far I never said anything about women being treated less than human beings its just common decency, I basically got abusive text as soon as I said something you didn't agree with

And not all men are like that, I've never hit anyone, I would never cheat, if I'm ever lucky enough to have kids I'd always want to be there for them and I don't view women as sex objects and I know many people like me, many guys don't view women as anything less than equal

I guess you get a lot of trolls but I wasn't one of them I was just generally interested

And I never once said that women have it easy and have nothing to fight for, I see the issues women face, pay, lack of support for abuse, more laws to keep dangerous men away from women and children, a social change to some men's behaviour towards women etc but I was just listing things people mentioned that were actually in my view not completely accurate and that I believed in the west at least men don't have a special privilege but that both sexes have things that need improved

The wall of text.

The announcing the poster is male.

The explaining how to do feminism.

The amazing revelation that if women were nicer we'd magically get treated like humans.

Not all men are like that.

It's all so predictable and boring.

There was a vote very recently in a western democracy (Ireland) where men (and women, but men) decided whether women should have the right to make medical decisions about their own bodies. Their own bodies! And you think male privilege doesn't exist? How fucking ignorant.

And yes, we are hostile. I feel very hostile when men come to a feminist place and tell women male privilege doesn't exist. I might even get hysterical or irrational or nagging or bitchy. All those words pissed off women get called.