Very basic, obvious examples of male privilege please?

@fmsfms: No shark-jumping here.

OP: Bi women are treated as "two for one" by men and expected to engage in MFF threesomes for his pleasure. Bi men are not subjected to this pressure.

Lots of women like being stared at - it validates them and is a compliment. Feminism has gone too far when it says men shouldn't stare at women'

I think it just normal behaviour for men or women to not stare hence 'don't stare it's rude'. It's just not social and normal behaviour feminism aside.

Regarding it being a compliment is just silly. As far as feminism going too far I think the fact women need to be validated by men is highly misogynistic and his problem. Also he thinks this problem is fit to represent the whole of feminism and undo it.

My fathers oldest brother had the privilege of been killed in the first world war at the battle of the Somme

It was a few men that sent other men to war. The mother's probably would have fought against it but couldn't because of male privilege. It was high up men who had no value for life in their patriarchal world.

Vicky1990, I think the OP was looking for examples slightly more contemporary than a century ago. When, btw, women in this country still didn't even have the right to vote for the governments deciding military strategy, but were killed and maimed from working in munitions factories, then unceremoniously dumped from the workforce on the men's return. In those days before the NHS, many of them died protracted and agonising deaths, with neither recognition for their sacrifice nor pensions for their families.

But don't let that stop you derailing a serious and important discussion with your entirely spurious point, eh?

Having a conversation with right on male colleague (who I do really lien) who supports trans rights and thinks transwomen are no threat to women in women only spaces

So I asked would you go in a women’s changing room as he would be able to if self ID laws come into play

He replied

No as I think I would either be laughed at or thought of as a perv

So his fear of being misjudged or mocked is very real and our fear of being assaulted or perved over isn’t

When I was a live-in nanny, I put my in-ear (but not he ones that go right inside) headphones on the table. Male boss comments the inner ear ones are better, more soundproof, secure and unlikely to fall out. I had to point out while pout and about, soundproof headphones its harder to remove immediately is literally the last thing I need. He truly didn't understand why being able to hear my surroundings, only remove one ear if needed, or both quickly, was so important to me. I could see the cogs and gears moving as I explained, yes while he has no issue walking or running and not hearing surroundings I have to be far more safety cautious.

This comes after him recommending an evening running route he loved, but passed a couple of less traveled, poorly lit areas, but I didn't say anything then. He was father to two girls and I hope after the headphone thing he took more time to consider just how it is being out and about while female.

First encounter with pay gap- aged 16 or so, working in a shop with a few other teens. £3.20 an hour for girls, £3.40 for the boys. The boy's job role was 'security guard', girls was shop assistant, but all of us did exactly the same thing, 50% on tills 50% shelf stocking and being a presence near the alcohol to deter thefts.

Male lack of street harassment. I have yet to hear of a man having "I want to fuck you in the arse" shouted at him at the railway station. I have yet to hear of a man and his father overhearing two men behind them saying "hey, we should try and get blowjobs off these two lads" (meaning the man and his father), whereas my mother and I once had "hey, we should try and get blowjobs off these two lasses" said about us.

Someone else (@Pratchet?) said on another thread that the single biggest aspect of positive discrimination that men get is not being sexually harassed.

@vicky1990, who was it who said that women cannot fight? Was it women? No, it was men in our Govt! The Russians happily sent women into combat.

In this country, women died in air raids and risked their lives delivering aircraft from the factories to the RAF bases, fifteen of them died doing so as they were flying a new-built plane for the first time and had no onboard IFF so would be shot at in error by AA batteries. Combatants are not the only casualties of war, but they are almost always the only ones listed on war memorials. I think in the whole of my life I've seen one female nurse listed on a memorial.

Two examples of male privilege off the top of my head:

1. Medicine is male oriented. New drugs and surgery techniques are overwhelmingly tested on males, so many drugs and therapies are ineffective for women. Crash test dummies use male models, so cars are more dangerous for women but safer for men. The standard heart attack symptoms (pain in arm, clutching chest, etc) are normal for men, but very rare for women. More women die of heart attacks because they simply aren't aware they are having any. Males get more pain relief because male pain is treated seriously.

2. Travel. Men can travel anywhere in the world on their own with the expectation they will be treated like a human being. Many countries in the middle east are off limits to women, unless they wear restrictive clothing and don't go outside. Men can travel alone, hitchhike, and make friends without a real persistent fear of being raped or sexually assaulted. In some countries, the sexual harassment towards lone female travellers is unremitting and unrelenting.

When I was in Brussels, at 9pm I came to use a public loo. The women's loo was shut and locked, the disabled loo was shut and locked, but the gents was still open. I'd just had a coil fit and had a slightly irritated uterus and a pelvis full of lidocaine, I was not happy.

Brussels is full of pissoirs (outdoor urinals), more in number than public toilets. Don't believe me? Go to www.brussels.be/map-brussels and click on toilets and click on urinals and compare the two on the map. And the urinals are open 24/7, the loos are not.

It’s not at all - he was permitted to fight for his country. He was allowed to become a hero...

What an absurd post.

My fathers oldest brother had the privilege of been killed in the first world war at the battle of the Somme.

I stare at people a lot because I lie observing them. Maybe I do it too much but when someone looks back at me I immediately look away. The guys who annoy me stare and stare and even when I look back they continue to stare. It's uncomfortable and intimidating.

I've tried the staring tactic at men and I swear to god, it was the first time they have ever felt objectified. He looked almost... Uncomfortable?

Imagine that.

Your aunt is my hero kettlepotblack

Post Childbirth injury rates.

Imagine if it was men. Third degree tear? Prolapse? Incontinent?

You'll be reet love.

One of the best things about getting older is not constantly feeling the male gaze. You know, that unpleasant, intrusive, invasive leering and ogling that oppresses you from the moment you start to enter puberty as a preteen.

Excuse DM link but clearly happens to other 'wives' too

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4421020/Mum-blasts-sexist-Anglian-Home-Improvements-salesmen.html

Anglian Windows (yes you) saying they can only make an appointment for me if my Husband is there.

Would my DH have to wait for me to be there to secure an appointment?

What is this, Gilead? You lost my money, Anglian. MINE!

I teach overseas. Lots of us have our dc with us as students at the school.

Dd2 had to do an arty project over half term, which was a major faff & also a tad impractical as her designated partner was travelling that week & on a different continent.

Male colleague also has a child in same class. His child's partner was local & available, but colleague couldn't be arsed. He had marking & reports to do & wasn't about to host a play date of glittery shite volcano building.

We both separately contacted class teacher (male as it happens) to say sorry, can't be done in the time frame & circumstances.

Class teacher sent me badgering email.

He sent similarly badgering email to male colleague's dw, who is a rather important diplomatic bigwig & was out of the country that week. She bounced it straight back to her dh, who cheerfully repeated his original stance: marking, writing reports, simply cba, sorry not sorry.

I got another grumpy email from class teacher. So did colleague's dw.

Disclaimer: he's a lovely guy

No he isn't.

Out of interest, are there any other things that he feels he is "biologically wired" to do and therefore has absolutely no control over?

You know what REALLY opened my eyes to men?

Working in a pub between the ages of 18-21.

The most revolting men gemuinely they are Greek Gods compared to you, a woman. They think you are flattered and honoured that they make disgusting remarks and treat you like you are nothing.

They think because they have a dick they are automatically 200% more attractive than you. That they get to size you up and assess whether 'they' would have sex with you. Because of course you would be honoured.

Then their wives come in with them and they act like they've never even met you.

DARVO - deny, attack, reverse victim and offender. It's an acronym from discussions of the way in which domestic abusers exercise coercive control ("I didn't do what you said I did", "You're always having a go at me", "I'm the one who's really suffering in this relationship because you're always accusing me of being the bad guy.")

Some women do claim to like being leched over by random strangers they themselves are not attracted to. The ones I have come across are, sadly, mostly women who have been shat on from a great height by the men in their lives, starting early on in childhood, and thus have very low self esteem and will seize on any crumb of male attention.

Halfwit - I was laughing so much not long ago as my aunt told me she was cycling and had been called a bitch by a man in a car.

Her reply was just one long... 'fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuucccccckkkkk ooooffffffffffffffffff'

She said she just shouted it as long as loud as possible.I thought 'yes'! You actually did it, you didn't wish you had done it afterward! Sadly it could have escalated but luckily it didn't.