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Trans rights supporters -can we please unite on the cervical cancer issue

240 replies

speakingwoman · 17/06/2018 10:43

I’m very worried about the cervical cancer issue.
If you are an advocate of trans rights but believe that cancer research should address its screening calls to “women” please do say so here.

To everyone else, if this is going to fail can we just let it fail quietly please?

There are some things just as important as conflicts of rights, people not dying of undetected cervical cancer is one of these.

If I get any support I will write to Cancer Research.

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LassWiADelicateAir · 18/06/2018 00:30

What's the c word?

Charlie India Sierra. I believe MNHQ agreed its use would merit a deletion.

It's quite funny, given I posted on here earlier criticising a post, which I found offensive, that there are time wasting trans women seeking to have smear tests.

Beamur · 18/06/2018 00:02

I think the wording of the campaign will confuse more people than it will help.

Waddlelikeapenguin · 17/06/2018 23:54

lass got deleted Confused
What's the c word?

The new less comfortable FWR sigh

That link up thread was good Lass
& thank you to whoever posted about needing smear tests post hysterectomy- i didnt know that & my mother was most pissed off they keep asking her in...maybe there is a reason!

LassWiADelicateAir · 17/06/2018 23:23

Thanks Rufus.

LassWiADelicateAir · 17/06/2018 23:21

I think it might be because I either quoted or repeated verbatim burpees' deleted post which I think had the banned 3 letter word starting with c in it.

If that is the reason I would have thought it obvious I was mocking burpees' silly post about time- wasting, non- cervix owning, that banned word, women

Voice0fReason · 17/06/2018 23:18

It is irresponsible to remove the word 'woman' from this message.

Transmen are more likely to know they have a cervix than many vulnerable, poorly educated or low literacy women.

Rufustheyawningreindeer · 17/06/2018 23:03

Than me Blush

Oooh that looks bad

I'm in a bit of a temper....and i need to go to bed soon

Rufustheyawningreindeer · 17/06/2018 23:00

Its pretty much what about 4/5 of us said in crossposts

To be fair lass was a lot more succinct...

Rufustheyawningreindeer · 17/06/2018 22:59

If the first time she discovers she has the rare medical condition that she has no uterus is at a smear test I think it would be money well spent.

What the hell is wrong with this??

colouringinagain · 17/06/2018 22:58

I agree with you OP

Rufustheyawningreindeer · 17/06/2018 22:57

Oh thats taking the absolute fucking piss

Rufustheyawningreindeer · 17/06/2018 22:57

Wait what???

That was deleted

What the fuck for!!!???

LassWiADelicateAir · 17/06/2018 22:54

Ereshkigal

If the first time she discovers she has the rare medical condition that she has no uterus is at a smear test I think it would be money well spent.

I see you have quoted my deleted post.

Original poster
speakingwoman · 17/06/2018 20:30

Well, I’m happy that no one objected to the term woman.

I will write to CRUK.

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CertainHalfDesertedStreets · 17/06/2018 20:04

you cant attack people, personally and then expect us to support you when it suits you,we haven't forgotten clause 28 , and suspect many posters if they got rid of Transpeople, they would turn on us lesbians and gay men

You keep saying this. There are loads of lesbians here. They are the people you are throwing these accusations at. It is just not true. The posters here are the people who fought for equal rights for the LGB community and for equal rights in marriage. We are now fighting for women and girls. You have misunderstood what the issues here are and I suggest you take another look. Once you do I am sure that - as you are a solicitor - you will have the critical thinking skills to understand the arguments being made here whether you agree with them or not. Hmm

Kyanite · 17/06/2018 19:46

Trans ideology and their idea of correct language is always more important.

See the responses to Anna Turley MP.

twitter.com/annaturley/status/1007315316685393921

Ereshkigal · 17/06/2018 19:40

If the first time she discovers she has the rare medical condition that she has no uterus is at a smear test I think it would be money well spent.

YY.

PositivelyPERF · 17/06/2018 19:39

Thankfully there are no ‘cis’ women on here, just WOMEN. 😒

LassWiADelicateAir · 17/06/2018 19:35

Oh x posts

R0wantrees · 17/06/2018 19:34

Potentially yes.... I spend some time on forums of women who have had gyny cancer diagnosis.

The issue with a smear test invitation arriving post surgery crops up regularly.

Some women find the letter distressing.

Some find it amusing and offer to try to have it sent via courier etc.

All women though are encouraged to check with their consultant /CNS as this is most often what the GP will ask before modifying the record. Sometimes consultants will advise that a vault smear is neccesary.

LassWiADelicateAir · 17/06/2018 19:33

Not all cis women have a cervix, so if they get a letter and show up should they be charged as well?

A cis woman without a cervix will either have had it surgically removed or will have had gynaecological issues where this has been identified.

If the first time she discovers she has the rare medical condition that she has no uterus is at a smear test I think it would be money well spent.

Rufustheyawningreindeer · 17/06/2018 19:28

Oh wow

Loads of crossposts

Rufustheyawningreindeer · 17/06/2018 19:28

I think is a woman doesn't have a cervix she would probably already know

And if she didnt have a cervix then thank goodness she turned up to the smear to find out that she doesnt have on

So im guessing she wouldn't be charged

As it woukd be a problem in a woman...if you see what i mean

(Beginning to like the word womyn)

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speakingwoman · 17/06/2018 19:27

If for some reason I knew I no longer had a cervix the tweet would make me think I didn’t need to go -wrongly?

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LassWiADelicateAir · 17/06/2018 19:27

That's a great link Lass

Cosmo, Red, The Evening Standard, the Mail, the Express and the Guardian all have had recent articles about this. Grazia seems to do so annually. Grazia is the most recent I found but all the others had articles in 2018.