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Trans rights supporters -can we please unite on the cervical cancer issue

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speakingwoman · 17/06/2018 10:43

I’m very worried about the cervical cancer issue.
If you are an advocate of trans rights but believe that cancer research should address its screening calls to “women” please do say so here.

To everyone else, if this is going to fail can we just let it fail quietly please?

There are some things just as important as conflicts of rights, people not dying of undetected cervical cancer is one of these.

If I get any support I will write to Cancer Research.

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TheWrongTrousers · 17/06/2018 11:42

If a transwoman gets a letter stating they need to attend for screening, it’s not entirely their fault if they then show up for said screening.

Having a few extra people turn up who can't/wont be screened seems like a reasonable trade-off.

Gileswithachainsaw · 17/06/2018 11:41

Hasn't it just been the case that hundreds of women have not been called for the breast screening they should have been. Yet despite this they still won't aim a cause at the people it's bloody meant for?

Wtf

heresyandwitchcraft · 17/06/2018 11:40

Of course, the best way to avoid this is to ensure medical records state birth sex permanently - this ensures the best chances for appropriate health care for everyone.

Betty - this is one of the most sensible things I've heard in this whole "debate."

heresyandwitchcraft · 17/06/2018 11:38

OP, I agree with you. "Woman" absolutely needs to be included in communication about cervical cancer screening. To omit it is highly irresponsible.

Jozxyqk · 17/06/2018 11:37

I do think that cervical smear tests should be targeted only at those who need them, i.e. everyone who was born with & retains their cervix. Anything else is clearly madness, putting people's lives at risk, & a waste of already desperately overstretched NHS resources.

This is why sex clearly does matter.

Raspacihno · 17/06/2018 11:36

I know we have some issues to address in schools, but I don't think transmen really specifically need to be told they have cervixes do they? They know this. When people think you can "change sex" they don't think you actually lose a cervix because you took testosterone. They think taking testosterone means you're a male now. A becervixed male.

Iceweasel · 17/06/2018 11:36

Transwomen going for a cervical smear should be charged for the service. The NHS should not be paying!

BettyDuMonde · 17/06/2018 11:32

Reminder letters are computer generated so if you are designated as F in the system, you are likely to get one.

If a transwoman gets a letter stating they need to attend for screening, it’s not entirely their fault if they then show up for said screening.

Of course, the best way to avoid this is to ensure medical records state birth sex permanently - this ensures the best chances for appropriate health care for everyone.

PositivelyPERF · 17/06/2018 11:31

That one really fucked me off! Women and anyone with a cervix would have been more acceptable. The fact they still use MEN when talking about male cancer, shows they are more nervous about pissing off men, but think women will be nice and accept, yet another, eraser of the word woman.

Writersblock2 · 17/06/2018 11:29

Maybe Cancer Research should spend more money on actually giving women the facts about smear testing so they can give informed consent rather than wasting time trying to be PC.

sexnotgender · 17/06/2018 11:27

Do transwomen actually turn up for a smearConfused
That’s insane!

LaSqrrl · 17/06/2018 11:25

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BettyDuMonde · 17/06/2018 11:19

Totally agree wrong trousers.

No one can identify out of their biological destiny and no one should die of cancer unnecessarily.

Here’s the Fair Play for Women blog post on the subject, including my own experiences around Women’s cancers:

fairplayforwomen.com/cancer_research_drops_woman/

SupermatchGame · 17/06/2018 11:18

I agree - Women and anyone with a cervix. This is to ensure the information is able to reach those with lower literacy levels and meet the duty to use Plain English when designing health promotion messages.

TheWrongTrousers · 17/06/2018 11:14

Publicity for screening should cover all bases. Women and anyone with a cervix.