Poor kid

It's pathetic. Will not look good looking back.

This is a female child being sterilized at the age of 12 and made into a lifelong medical patient.

Humans cannot change their biological sex so this child is being fed a lie.

I cannot believe comments have been deleted on this thread!!! I’m appalled and who are the sad acts reporting them? What’s there agenda?

its just vile to see another women being slated in such a way when she is only doing what her child wants

That's the problem, 'doing what the CHILD wants.' Children do all sorts of things to explore, but what we're saying is not to MUTILATE a child and tell them falsehoods by jumping on the trans bandwagon.

At 12 children are quite independant and do know their own minds

Considering you don't stop brain development until your 20's, children at 12 are just that, CHILDREN, and should not be messed with. Let the kid wear whatever she wants, explore, but for fucks sake we KNOW that most kids will grow out of this crap. They don't need to be dragged to a gender clinic and mutilated.

Puberty blockers will stop his breasts growing, which to a child like Gabriel would be very disturbing

There are no other psychological disorders where we mutilate bodies to control the delusional thoughts. Blockers cause an untold number of serious consquences like osteoporosis.

The mother is taking him to a gender clinic, which is the right thing to do, she is supporting her child

Supporting would be accepting the child wants to have short hair and wear pants. Supporting is not mutilating at a gender clinic.

Are any of you gender councillors, or able to offer sensible advice to both of them

Many of us don't need to be. We have research that shows kids grow out of this. Also, many of us grew up tomboys before there was a such a thing as a damned gender clinic.

I presume I can’t repeat what I said in my deleted post as I’ll be deleted again, but it was pretty much as you suggest busyboys.

Utterly reprehensible MNHQ.

Giddy99

Based on this article there is not much difference between me and the child. Hated wearing skirts preferred boys pastimes don't wear make up often have short hair blah blah blah.

You know what my mum did? She didn't enforce gender stereotypes on me she certainly didn't try to get me to wear make up at 12 years old. She let me wear what I wanted play with the toys I wanted etc. I see nothing in the article other than a child who doesn't want to conform to gender stereotypes.

So why can't we just let that happen. Why does the child now have to go down the medical route to fit into another gender box?

yup

I'm actually horrified at the deletions on this thread which are merely posts that referred to the child as being female which the child is and will always be..

Censorship in action.

Pratchet: Yes I did thank you.

Giddy99
Children should be allowed to grow up and only make radical decisions about irreversible changes to their body when they are old enough and mature enough to understand all the consequences.

Giddy, I was the child who wasn't happy with their gender.

Completely horrified by my developing body.

As were many other women here. That's what makes it so horrifying and real for us - we look at that child and see echoes of ourselves.

This doesn't come from a place of ignorance and bigotry, believe me.

That’s disturbing, they sound incompatible with what safeguarding should be in schools. The fact that schools are inviting pressure groups in to ‘train’ staff is yet another problem with Academies. I could rant about Academies nearly as much as I could rant about transgender ideology. Never mind I’m sure in about 15 years time lots of ‘lessons will be learned!’ But we’ll still ignore the latest tactics predators are using to circumvent safeguarding!

Wow so judgemental, How many of you have actually had personal experience of bringing up a child that is not happy with their gender. You have made assumptions about the parents, Munchausen's, the age of the mother for having lots of children.
I hope the mother does not ever read this post as its just vile to see another women being slated in such a way when she is only doing what her child wants.At 12 children are quite independant and do know their own minds . Puberty blockers will stop his breasts growing, which to a child like Gabriel would be very disturbing,
The mother is taking him to a gender clinic, which is the right thing to do, she is supporting her child, Are any of you gender councillors, or able to offer sensible advice to both of them or is your knowledge just from propaganda found in newspapers and on forums, Each child is different and should be treated as an individual.
Who are you to judge,

That story demonstrates everything that is wrong about transing of children. A girl with 4 older brothers is a tomboy and wants short hair and is therefore trans!
What a distaster for that child - can only hope the doctors they see will encourage them to hold off for a few years at least, and that Mum doesn’t go ahead and buy the hormones online instead of waiting for assessment

I don’t know if Mesmac have had any direct involvement with this case (probably not). They have provided training for this student’s high school (as well as Barnardos) and the HT seems very ‘pro’ trans from the quotes in the Grauniad article.

Now I’m just very confused? What possible help could they be to this child?

It’s taken pretty much word for word from the Hull Daily Mail so no wonder it seems amateurish!

That's them, Ruby.

Shall we say they're...possibly problematic in relation to young people.

Are Mesmac the ‘it’s OK to shag the clients’ one?

I thought Mesmac was a sexual health advisory service.

I may be way off beam here, but the acronym is something about Men Having Sex With Men (eg gay but not out), and they are about outreach into cruising areas, provision of condoms, HIV screening etc.

A vital service, but what has that to do with a 12 year old girl, why would they be getting involved, and why would that need defending?

Dear goddess.

I honesty don't think I can comment without a deletion, so I'm remaining shtum 🤐

I do worry that it is the very gender uncritical, “pink princess/tiara/unicorn vs Spider-Man and footy” stereotype accepting parents who will be taken in by this ideology. Those of us of a more feminist “oh I don’t mind if wee Tarquin wears a dress” bent are not really at risk... it’s a different world out there and I can see a lot of people clutching at “trans” as a solution when their children don’t conform and/or are gay/autistic say.... That’s why it’s so dangerous that the various “Guidelines” strongly discourage questioning from professionals such as teachers etc.

I find this thread upsetting there are so many assumptions being made from. This being in Leeds which it's not. The young person's gender clinic is in Leeds so everyone that is not down south goes there. Yes mermaids is a Leeds based organisation. They are not connected to the clinic other than they are a parents group and represent some of the parents who's children attend the clinic and support them. That is by no means all. The parents or young. People. Right mesmac there are a lot of good people who work really hard and do a lot for the lgbt community in West. Yorkshire yes there was a person who abused that. But the rest of the organisation is recovering from that and the therapy they offer is life saving..

But unless. You actually have any experiance of any of these organisations please do not make assumptions about them

So the poor kid can’t cope with going to school, but mum thought it was a good idea to broadcast it in the national news.