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Can human beings change sex?*

260 replies

Terfulike · 15/06/2018 20:49

Serious answers only please.
*With acknowledgement to Bowl, who has raised this so often. Apologies if this is repeating a thread from the past (?): in any case, maybe it's time for another thread with this title.

Please, no wordy arguments about how sex can be changed by legal instrument around the world, just answer the question posed.

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Newspeak · 15/06/2018 22:38

ItsBrit I would say I would be generally happy with this (can only speak for myself) but with some exceptions such as sport, rape crisis centres etc

No humans cannot change sex. We are not a species where sequential hermaphroditism occurs.

itsbritneybiatch · 15/06/2018 22:36

Except the obvious ones they wouldn't need like ie name to female surgery, wouldn't need a smear? Female to male wouldn't need whatever it is they'd need?

Bowednotbroken · 15/06/2018 22:35

No

TeamRick · 15/06/2018 22:35

No

itsbritneybiatch · 15/06/2018 22:34

So if someone had had all the ops, are we happy they are legally then allowed the same legal protections/rights as the gender or sex they now are/appear as?

AnotherQuoll · 15/06/2018 22:34

No. Humans cannot change sex.

BesmirchingMotherhood · 15/06/2018 22:31

Britney, you’ve come to the right place then. Smile

No.

ChattyLion · 15/06/2018 22:29

Of course not, physically.

Adults can use the Gender Recognition Act to ‘change their sex’ for purposes of their legal documentation, so in a purely legal sense of representing personal identity, it ispossible ‘to change sex’.

But that is a good example of a legal fiction.

itsbritneybiatch · 15/06/2018 22:28

Or gender I can't keep up and I'm not sure of the right terminology anymore!

itsbritneybiatch · 15/06/2018 22:26

No but if they have gone the full journey and had "all the gear realigned" I think it's right to say they are now a different sex legally.

Flame me if you want, I've not read up on all this and that's my view right now.

That's my initial thought.

Not says by I can't change it if I look at different points of view.

If someone hasn't done this, it's a case by case surely. And I don't mean these people who just say one day "I identify as this" and expect us all to agree. But for the legalities of the law, I stand by the above about going the full journey so to speak.

Ie Kevin who had lived as a women for ten years is different to Dave who just decided on Wednesday he's a women now.

As you can see, I'm not read up in this but I would like to get into some discussions about this

ColoursOfRain · 15/06/2018 22:26

No.

But I think this is the wrong board to ask this question on. By default you are likely to get the answer you want.

Maybe the question should be posted on a board that is less self selecting. Then you might get a more accurate representation.

mancheeze · 15/06/2018 22:23

NO!

I defy anyone who thinks this is possible to explain the biological mechanisms involved. Otherwise, you're just insane.

auntiebasil · 15/06/2018 22:22

No.

MrsWooster · 15/06/2018 22:21

No.

JoyTheUnicorn · 15/06/2018 22:21

No.

PenguindreamsofDraco · 15/06/2018 22:20

No, obviously. And no one actually genuinely truly believes they can and that TWAW or TMAM. No one.

PeakPants · 15/06/2018 22:20

Yes agree it is a legal fiction. Doesn’t take things much further forward though.

hazeyjane · 15/06/2018 22:19

It is called Turner's syndrome and sufferers are considered female but are infertile.
are female, surely, as opposed to considered female .

Fertility isn't a determiner of sex

PeakPants · 15/06/2018 22:19

certainHalf yes it is in section 9(1) of the act. It says that the sex becomes the opposite of the biological one.

MaterialReality · 15/06/2018 22:18

No. It's completely impossible.

A person legally changing sex has as much basis in objective reality as a corporation legally being a person. It is a convenient fiction. No actual change takes place.

Onlyinanemergency · 15/06/2018 22:16

No

PerfectlyDone · 15/06/2018 22:14

Biologically, no.

Legally, yes.

OunceOfFlounce · 15/06/2018 22:12

No.

We all know why this is relevant. If a person can't change sex a trans woman is not a woman so they need their own protections, spaces etc, instead of appropriating women's rights.

LightofaSilveryMoon · 15/06/2018 22:12

No, human beings cannot change sex. It is biologically impossible.

Legislative chicanery is just that - legislative chicanery. Or to use plainer words - a total and utter lie.

Waddlelikeapenguin · 15/06/2018 22:12

No

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