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Can human beings change sex?*

260 replies

Terfulike · 15/06/2018 20:49

Serious answers only please.
*With acknowledgement to Bowl, who has raised this so often. Apologies if this is repeating a thread from the past (?): in any case, maybe it's time for another thread with this title.

Please, no wordy arguments about how sex can be changed by legal instrument around the world, just answer the question posed.

OP posts:
NorthernJugni · 15/06/2018 23:41

No

But if they go through full transition with hormones and top/bottom surgery then I believe they should be considered as if they have fully changed sex.

Anyone can be any gender they like.

Maryz · 15/06/2018 23:39

egginacup, which issues are more of a threat to women's spaces than the trans issue?

Which issue is more likely to affect the ordinary woman, with school going daughters, who may want to join the girl guides, play sport, and enjoy a bit of privacy when changing for swimming?

If there is such an important issue, why not post a thread about it?

And if not, why not spend a little bit of time thinking about women prisoners forced to shower with men, clients of women's refuges forced to share accommodation with men, elderly women forced to share hospital wards with (and accept intimate care from) men, and young teenage girls who are called names for asking that they not be forced to change with, and share sleeping accommodation, with classmates who were boys last week, and still are physically boys.

Where is your sympathy for those girls and women?

AngryAttackKittens · 15/06/2018 23:38

Magdalene does have a lovely soothing voice, which makes it extra funny when she's being snarky. She's also developed epilepsy. I really hope she's recovering well from the recent attack, she's been looking so frail that it's been making me want to stand in front of her like a human shield (which would probably be more effective if I wasn't a shortarse).

sleepingdragons · 15/06/2018 23:32

@itsbritneybiatch I don't know if she is going to recover. The surgery was to prolong her life, I don't know if they can completely cure her. She has a health update video on her channel.

itsbritneybiatch · 15/06/2018 23:29

*Egginacup
*
Totally agree. You've put it rather more succinctly than me.

itsbritneybiatch · 15/06/2018 23:27

Totally spelt her name wrong there. But yes she's amazeballs

itsbritneybiatch · 15/06/2018 23:27

Yes it's magdelene burns!

I have a big train journey for work coming up. Deffo listening to her again. She has such a lovely voice.

Glad to hear she's going to recover.

Really sad to hear she has been attacked.

I think she's lovely.

AnduinsGirl · 15/06/2018 23:22

No

sleepingdragons · 15/06/2018 23:19

No.

sleepingdragons · 15/06/2018 23:19

@itsbritneybiatch I totally agree, Magdalen Berns is awesome.

Here's her Youtube channel: www.youtube.com/channel/UCvTTakI97sQ4SkMnsH8r0qQ/videos

pachyderm · 15/06/2018 23:15

No.

egginacup · 15/06/2018 23:14

Southfields I believe that if someone has had gender reassignment surgery they have the right to be considered that gender. And that sex. I know I’ll get shouted down, but that’s what I think. And I am a feminist.

I also don’t see the point of this thread because it’s clearly designed to get a certain viewpoint and that’s it. But I felt the need to reply because I used to really enjoy the feminism boards and now feel like they have been overtaken by those with one agenda.

There are bigger feminist issues to fight than transgender issues. Much more important ones. I don’t get the current obsession.

busyboysmum · 15/06/2018 23:04

No.

Timeisslippingaway · 15/06/2018 23:03

No

AncientLights · 15/06/2018 23:02

Of course they can't.

Maryz · 15/06/2018 23:02

I haven't RTFT, but the answer is obvious.

Of course they can't. They don't have to. Trans XY people who want to be XX people don't have to change because they have special girly XY chromosomes (along with their ladybrains and girly penis) and therefore are already the sex they want to be.

Or something like that.

Southfields · 15/06/2018 23:00

No.

lurker33 · 15/06/2018 23:00

No.

Southfields · 15/06/2018 22:59

Egginacup please detail the scientific, biological process by which this sex change happens.

What prompts it? What happens during it? How long does the change take? What changes does the body make to itself?

dianebrewster · 15/06/2018 22:57

No.

The law can create a legal fiction that sex change can happen, but it's a legal fiction.

PeakPants · 15/06/2018 22:50

I think you’re thinking of Magdalene Berns, Brit. As far as I know she had an operation and most of her brain tumour was removed. Sadly she was attacked recently.

tobee · 15/06/2018 22:45

No.

Even if it makes people sad or angry.

itsbritneybiatch · 15/06/2018 22:44

I did listen to that lovely lady can't think of her name now, after reading by a thread on this.

She's a gay lady with a lovely voice. From London or around there.

Bit sad as the last you tube video I listened to on a work drive was where she had a brain issue.

Did she get better? What was her name? She was lovely to listen to.

Racking my brains now.

MediocreOne · 15/06/2018 22:42

No

itsbritneybiatch · 15/06/2018 22:41

Ok thanks.

Yep I agree for sport etc. Totally agree.

And then it all becomes a bit clearer eh

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