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A bit of good news about 'upskirting'

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enoughisenoughtoday · 15/06/2018 10:18

It's going to be made a criminal offence with a 2 year jail sentence .
www.thetimes.co.uk/article/new-offence-of-upskirting-to-carry-two-year-jail-term-nmtjwtgt6?shareToken=515d5b6f7e9e27e09b4aa039fdabc2ef

Well done to all those women who have fought for this to happen

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TopBitchoftheWitches · 15/06/2018 15:11

@MrsTerryPratchett we can speculate that he is a nasty, sexist twat. How dare he feel he has the right to violate women in this way.
I hope he is sacked.

FermatsTheorem · 15/06/2018 15:11

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christopher_Chope Wiki page on Chope.

Basically the man comes across as a complete sociopath - in that he seems to hate other people (women and men alike), and if, on any given issue, there's a path which would quite clearly be the morally right one to anyone, of either political stamp, with an ounce of common decency, he will take the other path just out of sheer obstreperousness. A very nasty piece of work indeed.

InLoveWithDavidTennant · 15/06/2018 15:09

Just seen on the news the law has been blocked by a Tory MP Sir Christopher Chope

What the actual fuck? Why are there so many scummy shitty men? And they get away with this bullshit time and time again! Just WHY????? FFS

BlooperReel · 15/06/2018 15:09

Christopher Chope is clearly a vile misogynistic pig. How fucking dare he block this! On what bloody grounds!

poorbuthappy · 15/06/2018 15:07

I am aghast at this.

redshoeblueshoe · 15/06/2018 15:05

I don't know if anyone saw the piece on Sky news this morning about this. I was horrified. The man was in a supermarket (this was caught on CCTV) there was only him and a woman in the aisle. she was standing still looking at something, he very quickly bent down and took a photo, he then took one step away, then moved back and did it again.
She didn't re-act but I think that was because she didn't know what had happened. She was not a young kid, neither was she wearing a short skirt.
I am only saying about her age and dress length because Nick Freeman thinks its women's fault. (there is a thread about his tweet)

Ereshkigal · 15/06/2018 15:04

Why are so many awful misogynists crawling out of the woodwork to be openly anti women?

PoisonousSmurf · 15/06/2018 15:03

On the BBC news a spokesperson was saying that there is at last a law to stop perverts from taking photo's of women's genitals.
Aren't they wearing pants??

tobee · 15/06/2018 15:03

If you look at Sir Christopher Chope's wiki page this totally fits. AngryWhat a awful man.

notacooldad · 15/06/2018 15:03

What the hell????

MrsTerryPratchett · 15/06/2018 15:02

Why on earth would anyone block this?

We can only speculate about why a man would like men to be able to continue to do this. I'm speculating very very hard.

MrsTerryPratchett · 15/06/2018 15:01

www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-44496427

It has.

TopBitchoftheWitches · 15/06/2018 15:00

Why on earth would anyone block this?

MrsTerryPratchett · 15/06/2018 14:58

Well, this new law is good but reading this thread has also made me vow never to let either DD go anywhere public and busy without leggings / trousers etc.

Or we tell our daughters that if they become the victim of a crime they have nothing to be ashamed about. That it's the people doing this who should be ashamed. Wear what you like and fuck 'em all. Like men do.

If only it were that easy.

Floeer · 15/06/2018 14:55

Just seen too, hasn't been reported as to why yet though on the BBC?

lovetheway · 15/06/2018 14:50

Just seen on the news the law has been blocked by a Tory MP Sir Christopher Chope Angry

Floeer · 15/06/2018 14:21

It really isn't any different from flashing

Totally agree 100%! How this has become acceptable or normal behaviour I do not know.

So glad that this law has gone through but such a shame it required its own law to begin with!

Ineedacupofteadesperately · 15/06/2018 13:54

haXXor yes, I realise this is not ideal and not right but if it prevents child abuse of my children (given the images could presumably end up anywhere including used by paedophiles) then leggings it is.

I don't feel happy having to do this, or have the conversation with my older DD. But I need to start to have these conversations with her or she's wide open to abuse.

I hope there's a law enacted against dick pics too. It really isn't any different from flashing.

haXXor · 15/06/2018 13:41

@Ineedacupofteadesperately

Well, this new law is good but reading this thread has also made me vow never to let either DD go anywhere public and busy without leggings / trousers etc.

Yup, it always ends up being the women who have to overheat in leggings in the summer to prevent male abuse, whilst the men walk down the street topless in shorts.

ChattyLion · 15/06/2018 13:29

Excellent news! Flowers to all who made this happen.

hackmum · 15/06/2018 13:03

UpstartCrow: "As for 'this never happens,' there's at least one upskirt Reddit and a well worn hashtag.
And this is voyeurism lite. If you find upskirting difficult to get your head round then count your lucky stars you've never encountered any of the heavier stuff, but please don't dismiss womens concerns over this kind of behaviour."

I don't know if this was aimed at me, but if so, you've misunderstood. I didn't say that it didn't happen, and I am the last person to dismiss women's concerns about it. I was genuinely just puzzled by the logistics of it.

InLoveWithDavidTennant · 15/06/2018 12:59

Excellent news. About blooming time!

Well done to all involved Wine

Ineedacupofteadesperately · 15/06/2018 12:57

Well, this new law is good but reading this thread has also made me vow never to let either DD go anywhere public and busy without leggings / trousers etc.

shiklah · 15/06/2018 12:56

I've seen them in the papers. I will not link here. I have seen Britney Spears, Christina Augilaria (sp?), Paris Hilton, Lindsay Lohan et all being pushed over by groups of men pushing cameras up their skirts.
Gross.

notacooldad · 15/06/2018 12:47

lightsouth
It was pretty much what we already knew, examples of how it happens and the affect on victims and that the victims targeted are getting younger. We watched a video of a young girl narrating over different images about how she felt when every one at school had seen the pictures.
It also talked about the definition and legal position of upskirting in different countries. However upskirting was just a small topic of the main course that was about CSE