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New guidelines - we aren't allowed to refer to natal sex

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Maryz · 14/06/2018 11:44

According to KateMumsnet:

"We also thought it might be useful to clarify our thinking about general terms for trans people. Having said that TIM is not okay, it seems a bit illogical to allow other terms which hang upon natal sex."

Well that's that really, isn't it.

We are all being told to pretend that men have become women.

Am I going to be deleted/banned for this post?

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Maryz · 14/06/2018 11:54

I put it here because I think people might miss it buried deep (around 300 posts in) in the "Mumsnet moderation thread ... part 2" in Site Stuff.

I'm really disappointed that MN are colluding with the silencing of women whose only "crime" is to speak the truth.

I suspect we'll all be banned by next week.

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heresyandwitchcraft · 14/06/2018 11:53

This is, quite frankly, insulting.

Sex is a fact, it's neutral and descriptive. It's not meant to offend anyone, but we need language to talk about these issues.

The denial of biological sex, and the silencing culture around being able to call a spade a spade (or a be-penised person a male!) it is a huge part of why we're in this mess in the first place.

Gileswithachainsaw · 14/06/2018 11:50

Wtf

So much that happens to women happens because of their sex.

How the fuck can we solve problems we can't use language to define Angry

Sarahconnor1 · 14/06/2018 11:48

How can any of these issues be discussed with any clarity if we can't used natal sex. This is madness.

farine · 14/06/2018 11:48

Not trying to be goady, @katemumsnet but does this mean on pregnancy boards when people are asking posters to decipher baby scans as boy or girl we aren't allowed to anymore, as we can't mention boy or girl as natal sex? Or is that ok and it's only if someone has rejected the natal sex that we can't refer to it?

TokenBritPoshOfCourse · 14/06/2018 11:45

‘Natal sex’

So, sex.

Humans can’t change sex.

The world has gone fucking mad.

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