How will we know if we have lost good women?

I’ve been lurking on FWR for months and am immensely grateful to the posters here who opened my eyes to reality. Thank you. I hope you stay. I was an unquestioning liberal ally who had no idea about the transactivists’ agenda. I’m paying attention now (here, on Twitter, and on Reddit), and I think they underestimate just how many of us there are.

We can't underestimate TRA resources tho

Money, numbers and tech experience, plus a huge number of true believers whose obsession with identity has been cultured and groomed online.

It's a relay and those trying to shut the conversation down have vastly underestimated how many women are waiting in the wings ready to take the baton when needed.

This ( I'm a long time lurker )

As a woman in a relationship with another woman I hope children aren't seen as necessary to validate womanhood. I am sure you meant no offence but validation through motherhood is really quite a misogynist view and I wouldn't like to see it get traction.

No not at all. But it is a bit odd to declare as that happened that a poster who had posted of her experiences of childbirth is really a man and to keep on insisting she is a man.

It wouldn't surprise me if people register just to report posts. MN did say multiple pointless reports would be dealt with, but suspension and blocking isn't going to bother those posters. It's their intention to cause disruption not to use MN for support.

Bewilderness I will not "repent"

Your behaviour on that thread was horrible. MNHQ clearly agreed given how many deletions you got. You are now doing a wide eyed routine of "what me"? which you also did on that thread.

Your "potato" comments are used to try to discredit and stifle posters you don't agree with.

Report me. I don't care.

enoughisenoughtoday
People are right about the word spreading. This is a leading article in the Times today:
www.thetimes.co.uk/article/assaults-on-free-speech-are-led-by-the-left-l2r8t9t9p?shareToken=ac46a62e9b536fec827a7f829b866706

You can register for free then comment or recommend other people's comments....

Tangent - we often say "dont be a turnip" in our house.

I bet there are TRA spreadsheets

I wonder if there's a "three strikes and you're out" policy on vexatious reporting. Because there are some posters who must have reported about 300 posts in the last two days.

I bet I'm being reported right now 🙄

Lots of posters throughout Mumsnet state the fact that anyone and claim to be anyone here and have experiences they don't have, Mumsnet themselves say as much on the top of relationship board.

So why is this example being singled out?

Unless you know what a woman is, that is a profoundly pointless thing to say. Do you know what a woman is? If not, please don't use words you don't understand.

Children aren't necessary to womanhood and nor is the ability to bear children. The only thing necessary is being of the sex that bears children.

"The poster on the thread which started this had a long MN history. Nothing suggested she was not a woman- many of her posts referred to issues re children and childbirth. I can't remember exactly who called her a man. Your potato posts backed up that calling out and they and the original call out were deleted."

As a woman in a relationship with another woman I hope children aren't seen as necessary to validate womanhood. I am sure you meant no offence but validation through motherhood is really quite a misogynist view and I wouldn't like to see it get traction.

Bewilderness - you're still here.

I think we can safely say about this latest debacle, 'if that's free speech, I'm a banana'

At the risk of pissing off Lass even further, I feel this is all getting a bit you say potato, I say...

don't strike me!

Also very pointless to for people to complain about being called a man when they don't know what it means.

Bewilderness was joining the long history of 'what if' ad absurdum in the style of 'if that's justice, I'm a banana'.

This is pointless, Lass. You are caught in a lie. Have your own post removed if you repent of lying.

It's just silly to claim that she said 'you are a potato'. It didn't happen. Very misleading of you.

That's disingenuous lass. Bewilderness didn't call anyone a potato.

Please report them then. I stand by what I said. You leapt to back up the attempt to discredit that particular poster with your disingenuous "potato" comment.

Whether you call posters whose opinions you wish to stifle "potatoes" or "men" the effect is the same.

This is the personal attack by you in th post that I reported:
That isn't quite accurate. You have a habit of deciding that posters who don't express opinions which you deem to be sufficiently womenlike must be men. You are not the only one poster who does that.

Oh good please report my replies too and this one. That will give me my 3 strikes.

Your potato posts were backing up the poster who called out the OP as being a man. As is always the point of them.

I am not backing off false accusation. You use them to try to discredit posters because you can't think of a better argument.

I did not call them a man. You know I didn't because you backed off your false accusation by saying you do not remember. I do not have a habit of calling people men.
You have a right to view the interaction in as negative a light as you choose but you are not telling the truth about what I said and did.
I have reported your post as a persona attack because that is exactly what it is.