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How will we know if we have lost good women?

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loveyouradvice · 13/06/2018 20:26

I fear we will lose some of our strongest most vibrant voices, torn down by the current wordspeak policies..... Can we keep a record here of those we lose? I do NOT want to forget them.

I thought it was so telling that the GC would have happily kept all language (even the abhorrent Cis and Terf) ... while the trans-allies wanted to curtail as much speech as they possibly could....

To all strong GC voices - Please DO NOT leave us - your voice counts for more here than on any other forum.... Mumsnet is watched by the world and will be responsible for our keeping women and girls safe .... even if you have to clip your wings a little to get your message across, please hang on in here ... IT IS SO IMPORTANT

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ScarletBegonias · 13/06/2018 21:56

Well said, Barracker.

AngryAttackKittens · 13/06/2018 21:55

A techy friend of mine has volunteered to make a forum if everyone here who's either bailing or about to be forced out would like one. Obviously we'd have to be figure out a way to ensure that we weren't welcoming a Trojan horse with doxxing intentions, not sure how to do that.

BarrackerBarmer · 13/06/2018 21:52

Lovely thread. Sad though.
TheUterati banned? or on the naughty step?

Datun IS Galadriel, yes!

I've been here for quite a lot of years and seen a lot of the purges. This won't be the end.

The important thing is to CONNECT though. Outside of Mumsnet, on Facebook, on twitter. Build trust, build your circle. There are thousands of us out there who are active, and for every active poster saying the unsayable and prepared to be on the wrong side of history there are hundreds willing her on.

This is all madness and we need to weather it until it concludes.
And it will conclude.
Kids will move on and being trans will be old news. Your sexuality is what it is, but trans really is a contagious trend right now. Nothing will kill it deader as a trend than kids noticing that their uncle and next door's dad plus the local police sarge are all celebrating their transness.
And the damaged casualties will be too many to ignore. The lawsuits.
And the most toxic TRAs will one by one be emboldened to say the most dreadful things, at which point politicians will distance themselves carefully.
The whole shebang will self-destruct.
It's all utterly inevitable. All we must do is batten down the hatches and limit the damage as best we can. We'll ride it out.

Theinconstantgardener · 13/06/2018 21:51

And mine. Think i will go to the pub now. Anyone care to join?Gin

RaininSummer · 13/06/2018 21:51

Yes we mustn't lose our great posters. Can we all sign up for reddit with recognisable names? I have just become RaininSummerMum. Or could we invent a new forum.

Rufustheyawningreindeer · 13/06/2018 21:50

I have that effect on people PERF Grin

I can drive a teetotaler to drink

Ilikelotsofthinngs · 13/06/2018 21:48

Ah OK thank you will check out the reddit. My fear is the same as jaffas.

SciFiFan2015 · 13/06/2018 21:46

I don't know how to use other sites. Can we set up an off MN mailing list to stay in touch?

PositivelyPERF · 13/06/2018 21:46

(Fuck me i have issues!!) 🤣

You’re putting me in the notion for a glass of wine. 🍷

Ilikelotsofthinngs · 13/06/2018 21:46

Which other sites? I only know you lot.
Reddit? netmums

AngryAttackKittens · 13/06/2018 21:45

Search "gender critical" on Reddit, there are two separate subreddits, one larger than the other. So far the only things they've ever shut down are the incel forum and one that was posting creepshots.

NotAnotherJaffaCake · 13/06/2018 21:45

I’m worried if you go I won’t know where to find you. I found you lot by accident, and whilst I don’t contribute much now I know what’s going on I don’t want to lose your knowledge.

Rufustheyawningreindeer · 13/06/2018 21:44

Its really dumb gardener

But it feels like we are alone in the pub and no one can see us Grin

(Fuck me i have issues!!)

AngryAttackKittens · 13/06/2018 21:44

There are other sites, even if they succeed in getting all the women whose tone certain people don't like banned here.

Theinconstantgardener · 13/06/2018 21:41

Everyone needs to check into the pub everyday
and thisGrin

Ilikelotsofthinngs · 13/06/2018 21:40

Where shall we go? There has to be a place we can still talk using meaningful language, share ideas and organise ourselves. Where can we do this now? I don't think this is the place anymore and I'm really sad about it. We need to share somewhere now before we all get zapped.

Theinconstantgardener · 13/06/2018 21:40

What happened today on MN with the new policy is a signal that women have to SPEAK MORE about this, not less
This a thousand times

PositivelyPERF · 13/06/2018 21:39

I’m a goby stubborn woman and I will not let men bully me off Mumsnet. MNHQ will have to ban me to stop me from speaking the truth. Those that are in contact with each other will be able to let us know who is banned. It would make for a very interesting list. Are you going to ban all women that won’t follow the indoctrination, MNHQ?

Rufustheyawningreindeer · 13/06/2018 21:36

The guardian wouldnt know reportimg the facts if the facts hit them round the head with a rolled up copy of the guardian

thebewilderness · 13/06/2018 21:35

Remember when I made the bad joke about changing the name of FWR to the "He-Man Woman Haters Club".
The Guardian calls it the transgender forum so I guess it wasn't a joke after all.

Rufustheyawningreindeer · 13/06/2018 21:34

What love said

You are not allowed to leave me here alone!!!!

My mum said...

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loveyouradvice · 13/06/2018 21:33

Yep, what Terry said ... Terry, thank you...loved your gushing and applaud every word and every name....

AngryAttack.... please NO!!!! We can do it... we can cry and scream and shout in other places - but the world of girls and women need our strong voices here now

What happened today on MN with the new policy is a signal that women have to SPEAK MORE about this, not less.

Yes - and it is here that our voices will be heard best... it is here that journalists come to find stories, to hear what women think... it is here that we can peak-trans more and more people every day ... if we leave, or if our numbers diminish, our voices will be weaker .... we will be talking to ourselves in echo chambers but not being heard by the wider world... and it is THEM WE NEED for CHANGE TO HAPPEN

Really sad to see Uterati go.... please tell her she will be much missed... and I hope will return in due course.... We need her amongst us

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thebewilderness · 13/06/2018 21:32

I expect the mods will send me down the memory hole soon. They seem to be as out of patience with me as I am with them.

I appear to be incapable of living up to their unrealistic expectations.
Time will tell.

daimbars · 13/06/2018 21:29

Pencilsinspace is another one who has made me think and is respectful.

daimbars · 13/06/2018 21:27

I rarely agree with her but for some reason I've got a soft spot for Datun too. She's often good at articulating the GC position respectfully.

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